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Ukraine struck Russia's largest oil refinery, located in the city of Omsk, on Monday, marking what its forces say was its furthest-ever drone attack in the war.

The Omsk facility, which processes about 21 million tons of oil a year, is in Western Siberia and about 1,700 miles from Ukrainian territory — roughly the distance between Los Angeles and Houston.

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[–] nyan_kas@piefed.social 80 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Ukraine has developed very impressive drone technology in a very short time. It is expected that multiple nations will actually try to make deals to acquire Ukrainian drones at the current NATO summit because they are so good now. So Ukraine is no longer dependent on others to sell them drones. They‘re selling them now.

For example, these drones can use terrain as guidance, so GPS isn’t required for navigation. This also allows them to fly at a very low altitude, avoiding Russian air defense. They’re also very resistant to jamming and have advanced autonomous capabilities, so they can “finish the job” on their own if the link to their operator is severed. Also, they’re very cheap, so it’s possible to overwhelm Russian defenses by swarming them.

In summary, they‘ve developed incredible killing machines that are able to act autonomously, which is very good for them right now but probably not very good for humanity in the long run.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (5 children)

In summary, they‘ve developed incredible killing machines that are able to act autonomously, which is very good for them right now but probably not very good for humanity in the long run.

It's possible that this becomes the new "mutually assured destruction" we had back in the 20th. Basically, a cold war brought on by drones instead of nukes. It could mean a near-future of peace, however uneasy. I can't say that living with the looming propagandized threat of the USSR was good, but I think it was a far sight better than being in an active shooting war with them.

[–] group_hug@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I think that is a crazily optimistic take. Even if countries were to stop outright drone warfare and keep things to cyber attacks and economic warfare there would be nothing to stop them from using the tech to attack their own citizens.

US constitution has already proven to be worth about as much as Lloyd and Harry's I.O.Us.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The difference is nobody ever felt comfortable nuking their own civilians. I think chemical weapons are a better comparison. Autonomous drones will become illegal and unacceptable in warfare, but for riot control less lethal ones will be common and occasionally an authoritarian leader will use the military grade ones on minority groups or dissidents.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

a cold war brought on by drones instead of nukes

Oh great now I am worried about drones carrying dirty bombs.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

That's exactly what people are worried about happening.

[–] Nautalax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Dirty bombs are a meme weapon, they’re not really effective except for scaring people who don’t know that they’re not effective

Yeah no because all we will have in response to that is the excuse for the psychos to deploy AI fueled "defense" anti-drone "security" drones flying nonstop 24/7 everywhere. Mechanized mafioso anyone?

[–] monomon@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

It's much harder to control their production, though. They don't need enriched uranium and huge facilities, you can put them together in your bedroom (not at scale, obv.)

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago

Smart countries are scrambling to buy Ukraine cheap effective next-generation drone warfare weapons. This is developing into a very lucrative market for them.

[–] LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

probably not very good for humanity in the long run.

Eh. C'est la vie. We had a good run.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There was a Black Mirror episode featuring the Boston Dynamics "Dog" robot thing with a machine gun on it, and hunting people down, they are terrifying. It's like being hunted by a zombie tbag doesn't eat or sleep or get tired and won't stop.

Flying drones are a whole new level of scary beyond that.

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

zombie tbag sounds pretty horrifying

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 1 points 21 hours ago

Screams in British

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

That was a great episode, scary foreshadowing of the future, but still a great episode.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

And for all of this goodness we had Vlad the Invader to thank. Just think where we all be without Vlad!