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I've really wanted to ditch JPEG. It's a 34 year old format.
The problem is that AVIF, JPEG-XL and HEIC/HEIF don't work in many places. At a minimum I would want them to display in my gallery app (currently Nextcloud memories), display in a browser, and have native support at an OS level (i.e thumbnail previews). Neither format comes close to this.
I may even move away from Nextcloud over it. I didn't want to deploy docker just for immich (I love LAMP, btw). However Nextcloud is SO MUCH maintenance compared to the 50 other services running on my server.
there's a new push to support JPEG-XL in Firefox. it got a labs toggle recently so you can enable it for yourself. I think chrome has done something too.
what OS do you use? KDE flavoured linux handles it fine. probably not KDE specific though.
I saw the JXL article recently. It's good progress. Didn't a major browser remove JXL support after it was added?
I'm on Ubuntu gnome. I think the biggest outlier was LibreOffice, which didn't support any modern formats.
yes, chrome, a few years ago. google wanted to push its own inferior format
that's possible it does not use the system libraries for that. but the system file manager and system gallery app should support it, and anything that uses the same libs
JXL is working alright for me.
As an example with a lot of dynamic range, here's a JXL:
AVIF:
Both render in my desktop and iPhone browsers, just fine. I bet at least one renders for you. And I made them from RAWs from a really old camera!
The problem is, as you say... arbitrary lack of support. As an example, I can't upload either file to Lemmy. Brand new social media software, and it doesnt' recognize JXL or AVIF as valid image types, even though they should render just fine? Most image hosts wont take JXL either, hence I had to upload them to litterbox since catbox is down!
An HEIF, on the other hand, has basically 0 support outside of Apple:
All three of these render correctly on my phone, but only the top two do on other devices.
You've demonstrated my point perfectly 😆
What platform is that, out of curiosity? Im pretty sure everything should load an AVIF.
Voyager on GrapheneOS (Android 17)
Strangely enough, the AVIF is displaying now.
weird, voyager with android 14 here, and I can see the AVIF image
That makes sense. The image host I used is pretty unreliable.
Which is the second issue. No image hosts even support JXL or AVIF, except catbox.moe, which is down now! It’s infuriating.
At least any pictures uploaded on dbzer0 is converted to webp
Well...
Client: Voyager
Om Android, or iOS?
Voyager Client, Android
On my OPPO Android using Voyager only the AVIF loads
Which distro are you using?
My NAS is running Arch (btw) and I have Immich installed baremetal because someone's nicely maintaining it in the AUR... would need a little work to convert that script into something for another distro...
Ubuntu server.
I found a dude maintaining a deb repo. I might give that a shot.
It's kinda nuts that people have got it working and fully automates the packaging, but immich haven't taken it on.
Yep, esp. as the Immich team (and most likely others) should be using automation for their container builds anyway...