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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

All the HEIC files from my camera are still busted.

To be fair, its a tricky issue. Its camera makers' fault for using a format no one else wants to touch, and rendering them as HDR files instead of SDR with gain maps, as is standard practice for smartphones.

...But still, its annoying. They render fine on my iPhone, on Windows, or KDE Linux, out of the box. But they're completely garbled in Immich :(

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I've really wanted to ditch JPEG. It's a 34 year old format.

The problem is that AVIF, JPEG-XL and HEIC/HEIF don't work in many places. At a minimum I would want them to display in my gallery app (currently Nextcloud memories), display in a browser, and have native support at an OS level (i.e thumbnail previews). Neither format comes close to this.

I may even move away from Nextcloud over it. I didn't want to deploy docker just for immich (I love LAMP, btw). However Nextcloud is SO MUCH maintenance compared to the 50 other services running on my server.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

At a minimum I would want them to display in my gallery app (currently Nextcloud memories), display in a browser,

there's a new push to support JPEG-XL in Firefox. it got a labs toggle recently so you can enable it for yourself. I think chrome has done something too.

and have native support at an OS level (i.e thumbnail previews). Neither format comes close to this.

what OS do you use? KDE flavoured linux handles it fine. probably not KDE specific though.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I saw the JXL article recently. It's good progress. Didn't a major browser remove JXL support after it was added?

I'm on Ubuntu gnome. I think the biggest outlier was LibreOffice, which didn't support any modern formats.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Didn't a major browser remove JXL support after it was added?

yes, chrome, a few years ago. google wanted to push its own inferior format

I think the biggest outlier was LibreOffice, which didn't support any modern formats.

that's possible it does not use the system libraries for that. but the system file manager and system gallery app should support it, and anything that uses the same libs

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

JXL is working alright for me.

As an example with a lot of dynamic range, here's a JXL:

JXL image should be here

AVIF:

AVIF image should be here

Both render in my desktop and iPhone browsers, just fine. I bet at least one renders for you. And I made them from RAWs from a really old camera!

The problem is, as you say... arbitrary lack of support. As an example, I can't upload either file to Lemmy. Brand new social media software, and it doesnt' recognize JXL or AVIF as valid image types, even though they should render just fine? Most image hosts wont take JXL either, hence I had to upload them to litterbox since catbox is down!

An HEIF, on the other hand, has basically 0 support outside of Apple:

HIF Image should be here

All three of these render correctly on my phone, but only the top two do on other devices.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You've demonstrated my point perfectly 😆

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What platform is that, out of curiosity? Im pretty sure everything should load an AVIF.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Voyager on GrapheneOS (Android 17)

Strangely enough, the AVIF is displaying now.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

weird, voyager with android 14 here, and I can see the AVIF image

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That makes sense. The image host I used is pretty unreliable.

Which is the second issue. No image hosts even support JXL or AVIF, except catbox.moe, which is down now! It’s infuriating.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

At least any pictures uploaded on dbzer0 is converted to webp

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Voyager Client, Android

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

but only the top two do on other devices.

On my OPPO Android using Voyager only the AVIF loads

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which distro are you using?

My NAS is running Arch (btw) and I have Immich installed baremetal because someone's nicely maintaining it in the AUR... would need a little work to convert that script into something for another distro...

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ubuntu server.

I found a dude maintaining a deb repo. I might give that a shot.

It's kinda nuts that people have got it working and fully automates the packaging, but immich haven't taken it on.

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yep, esp. as the Immich team (and most likely others) should be using automation for their container builds anyway...