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[–] Transparent_knoll@awful.systems 97 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Keller said he's changed the system so customers with reservations have to pre-pay for drinks, including a service charge. "It's just to protect our staff,"

So, customers not paying tips is forcing the business to pay a living wage, as well as incorporate wages into the price model of products rather than leave it as a hidden morality tax?

Oh, The horror. /s

[–] tylersloeper@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 minutes ago

They won’t pay a living wage. That is just wishful thinking. They will just replace staff that quit, and continue to pay them nothing.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 minutes ago

No? They are just going to mandatory tips that are included in the check.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 0 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

I find the forced tip is better than the emotional extortion at the payment terminal... it ends up being the same price

And if it's a forced tip, just take the next logical and include the service in the price of the item... and if service really isnt included in the production of the food, just let me pick it up from the kitchen myself. No need to pay $5 just to walk 20m with a plate.

Finally, the next logical step, include any taxes in the menu price and make round numbers.... $10, $15, $18, etc... final bill $55... this is what they do in most of europe

I hate looking at bills that have numbers seemingly generated by RNG.... $54.97 for a meal, wtf... just make it $55

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 minute ago

There’s no fucking way the boh would just be ok with customers “just picking up their food from the kitchen” that’sa joke, right? Those people WILL spit in your food if you so much as look at them funny back there.

You think tipping servers is so bad? Deal with the head chef looking at your stupid gaping maw in the middle of dinner service. You’ll beg to tip a server.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 22 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Sounds like a good "problem" to me. Fuck tipping. It all originated from slavery also.

It really obscures costs to the consumer who is required to do math every time. A $20 meal plus tax plus tip lol. So stupid. Just post the price for the thing and be done with it.

[–] CombatWombat@feddit.online 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I find service charges pretty horrifying. I would like the number on the menu to be the number that I actually pay when I cash out, and service charges don't do that.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've lived in the US for decades and I would like this too. The whole tip culture here is stupid. Just include a gratuity for the staff by default. Or better still, pay them a living wage like most other countries.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's dumb. One of the many things we do differently than the whole rest of the world in service to the civic religion of capitalism.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

It's worse than that. It comes from racism and slavery. When you started having folks freed up from slavery who were doing jobs like being a waiter, Rich folk set the system up under the guise of saying good service gets good tips, but really it allowed them not to pay them. And so they had to work really hard for whatever tips they could get.

And that basically continues today. The system is absolutely bullshit.