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[META] Are paid for, closed source projects, being advertised on this community, appropriate? (lemmy.world)

submitted 14 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) by breadsmasher@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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A number of brand new accounts have popped up shilling their paid for applications.

Is this within the rules? Is the community happy with this? Could mods clarify this in the rules?

Either allowing advertising, or banning it entirely.

my point is - there is a difference between an open source homegrown project that might be useful, vs closed source paid for projects from brand new accounts

some replies are misunderstanding, somehow.

I am against

brand new accounts who:

first post is a brand new project
project is closed source
project will cost money
is asking for free testing
the post is literally an advertisement

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[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

What if the new account user, who is working on a product that integrates with what the vast majority of selfhosters run, just found Lemmy?

This happens on Reddit, and basically my problem is that these users often don't have enough experience to be able to actually give solutions. Reddit is full of people who think they have a good solution, dealing with comments of people explaining that what they are struggling with is actually a solved problem (or a skill issue). No one cares about your vibecoded slop that implements 1% of the features of an existing open source solution (they used to not be vibecoded but we still didn't care). It being paid and proprietary is just even more annoying.

My idea of requirement to engage with the community is also about being able to ensure that the users are technically competent. If they are experienced, it will show up in the discussions we can see and review. For their benefit, if they lurk, then they can take a look at what is being used, and what problems actually exist, instead of making assumptions.

If they really believe their product is so good, they can spend a few weeks helping people with Linux questions and sharing their (non product related) insightful thoughts on Lemmy so I don't dismiss them instantly when they finally advertise it.