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[–] stretch2m@infosec.pub -1 points 1 week ago (67 children)

As long as we have this broken first-past-the-post electoral system, I will vote blue, no matter what. When we have something better (proportional representation, for example), I will entertain more nuanced parties. Until then, at least the D leaders haven't actively dismantled democracy.

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (64 children)

So you want everyone else to do the work and when that job is finished you will hop on our bandwagon and proclaim you always supported us?

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (21 children)

It's not "hopping on the bandwagon", with the way your election system is rigged, there are only two options for a lot of places, anything else is a wasted vote

If you got rid of the Electoral Colleges and the FPP then suddenly it's not a wasted vote

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And you know what changes first past the post? Democrats getting off their ass and voting for actual nondemocrat or socialist candidates. If they are pushed past the post by Democrats, then they win. It's as simple as that. Trying to reform a party that is operating exactly as designed will always lead to failure

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, all that will do is make republicans win in former Dem safehouses

You woefully underestimate how much the deck is intentionally stacked against everyone but the big two

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

then their party needs to work harder to EARN those votes

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes! Genius!

Why has nobody thought of that before???

Oh wait... they have. It was found to not work unless you're in a "safe" voting block, and if you're living anywhere with any amount of swing to it, you INSTEAD make the party you hate win.

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Cool, but one is trying to destroy your rights quickly, putting people into camps, and treating LGBTQ as monsters.

one is trying to do it slowly, not putting people in camps, and it's pretty chill with LGBTQ, which is better?

The latter!

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Who built the infrastructure for one team to do it quickly?

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You gotta pick your fucking battles

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh, I have picked my battles and my battle is against Democrats and Republicans.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You never have to. You get the genocidal bigots you want either way. One just gets where you want quicker.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Slow is better than fast.

Slow means you have a chance to fight back.

A chance to turn the tables.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Delaying tactics from people who only fight against the left.

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