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I fucking hate that we keep getting this "both sides bad" ideology, now "both sides deathcamp" ffs, right during Trump's reign where we are seeing concentration camps and illegal wars right after a boring Biden presidency.
It's coming up to election season, so all the sabateuor bots are spinning up again to try and convince people like you not to vote.
That's why it's the same 10 accounts in every fucking group. Same dudes, over and over, making the same illogical bad-faith arguments.
@terranoid @Triumph ITs a good cop/ bad cop situation. In the US the DNC "failed" to punish Trump for an attempt to overthrow the Goverment.
Additionally the border camps got correctly called concentration camps in 2019 and Biden started to fill them.
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2019/are-ice-detention-centers-concentration-camps/
How long do you think it takes to run a trial? Like, gather evidence, interrogate witnesses, investigate, etc. In fact, what do you think happens to bring about a trial?
And why would the DNC be involved with that?
Also, was Biden President in 2019?
@webadict And here is it how it actually done when the "Opposition" isn't on your team:
Bolsonaro sentenced to 27 years in jail - what you need to know
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4d409v2neo
@Benaresh @webadict Javier Milei next? And then there's the current US administration...!
@tompearce49 @webadict One can only hope. I for my part couldn't wipe the grin off my face for a week at least.
Okay, so which question does that answer? Unfortunately, Trump lives in the US where the President somehow has complete immunity to everything, which seems more like an indictment on the Supreme Court than on Biden or other Democrats. It might even be an indictment of the voters, for electing Trump and giving him immunity to his crimes.
@webadict You didnt ask questions you implied that they couldnt Persecute Trump "Because there wasnt enough time". Biden could have jailed him due to the same immunity from the Supreme court.
Also you know blaming the voters for not persecuting Trump is a new low.
Additionally I almost forgot about Yoon Suk Yeol who got arrested for a similar coup attempt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest/_of/_Yoon/_Suk/_Yeol
weird that other countries seem to be able to punish coup attempts. Almost as long there is political will...
A new low? Okay, pal. I'm not entirely sure where you think my old low was, but sure? I asked some pretty basic questions because I legitimately don't think you know how the US legal system works. And it's fair not to. Pointing to other countries on how corruption is dealt with, insofar as what could've or should've been done, doesn't override the way that the US system works. Why don't you point to other corruption cases for lower offices in the US? Those also take years to investigate and prosecute. Some of the lower office corruption cases can be wrapped up in a little as a few months, but then tend not to.
Does that help point out the issue?
@webadict So you ignored the comment i made about Garland?
‘Fatal Mistake’: Democrats Blame DOJ As Trump Escapes Accountability For Jan. 6
“Merrick Garland wasted a year,” Rep. Jerrold Nadler said ahead of the fourth anniversary of the 2021 Capitol riot.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/january-6-doj-trump/_n/_67783f7ce4b0f0fdb7b19d36
Also i am not your "pal". Its simply ultra low when liberals keep blaming DNC failures on the electorate. No wonder Democrats approval rating is sub 30% with their own base.
Again, little buddy, I must ask if you think the DNC controls the DoJ? Blaming Merrick Garland is certainly a fair point, and it's one you can bring against Biden himself since he nominated him! That is fair. But, you still haven't used US corruption cases to support your words on how long the average corruption case takes to investigate and prosecute.
Like, I get you want to blame Democrats for everything because you have some sort of agenda or personal grievance or whatever the fuck. I don't really give a shit why. They are surely to blame for many things, and the DNC is also to blame for many things. But, I really don't think the Democrats are to blame for Trump not being held accountable. Especially since Trump has been held accountable on several smaller scales by mostly Democrats.
But, anyway, feel free to call all your perceived enemies liberals or whatever, my dude. You're doing great! :)
@webadict
If you don't like to debate leftists then don't come into our places and start shit as soon as you loose.
You ignored everything I said because you don't really think about your positions. You're just a little guy who links news articles. You don't know anything, buddy. I'm sorry that you don't think I'm a leftist because I vote for harm reduction. I want my trans friends to live, and that will keep them alive longer.
@webadict Yes i linked articles.
Because that way, unlike you i don't have to make shit up to make a point.
I have not read anything from you that indicates an informed position.
The DNC is indefensible and already signalled that they throw Trans people under the bus.
Harm reduction needs to reduce harm. I dont see any harm reduction with Dems in power. Id love to link examples but making you read articles is apparently bad.
What did I make up? That sounds like a thing you made up, pal.
Like, your point about Dems throwing trans people under the bus is almost there. You almost figured it out! The problem is that (centrist) Dems in general can be bullied into positions that are better because they are particularly spineless. They do not protect trans people... But they also don't actively ruin their lives. And that is better than the alternative. That's why it is called "harm reduction", pal. Do you not understand that?
Do you think trans people do not overwhelmingly vote Democratic? It's like fucking almost 90%. Or do you think that isn't true?
Like, you don't see harm reduction because you think that the harm done by both parties is the same. And that's really sad on a lot of levels. You are either very, very privileged; very, very misinformed; very, very stupid; or part of an intersection of disadvantaged groups. And I don't think you are the last one, buddy.
@webadict Centrist dems didn't budge on gaza before an important election. Trans Issues will also be ignored Also gavin Newson:"CA Gov Gavin Newsom "Completely Aligns" With Charlie Kirk On Trans Issues In Podcast"
One of the top candidates for presidency agreed with Charlie Kirk.
BTW about lying: ALMOST 90% is already a lie.
"Three-quarters (75%) of voting eligible trans respondents (adult U.S. citizens) reported that they had voted in the 2020 presidential election." Not even for dems
@Benaresh @webadict
RICHTIG GUT.😍😍😍
@IngridAusOL @webadict Schön wenn Demokratie funktioniert wie sie sollte, oder?
Wünschte wir würden das selbe bei uns mit dem AFD Verbotsverfahren anstoßen.
@Benaresh @webadict
Das wünsche ich uns auch 💪✊💪
How long did it take Müller to break silence, Garland to charge?
As I said elsewhere, it's extremely relevant as policy needs to be viewed as a continuum.
This is why the United States public sits by with handwringing and zero action. Every admin since Nixon has been to the right of Nixon. Socially left and economically right is just right with a few concessions. They fragment, lie, white/pink/green/rainbow/sanewash our history, our education, our politics, our economy, our personalities, our health, our lives so that people think they are very clever and pay attention to garbage they shouldn't, and view things to which we should give heavy attention via a fragmentary lens. And this is why fascism will win, here
Eta: the continuum is all over Lemmy, if you cba
It's self defeating on you, not me. Yeah as soon as I recover from a serious injury for which I am somewhere in between paperwork and approval, I'll be back out there.
I look forward to it.
@webadict ‘Fatal Mistake’: Democrats Blame DOJ As Trump Escapes Accountability For Jan. 6
“Merrick Garland wasted a year,” Rep. Jerrold Nadler said ahead of the fourth anniversary of the 2021 Capitol riot.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/january-6-doj-trump/_n/_67783f7ce4b0f0fdb7b19d36
Boring? There was and still is literally a genocide going on.
But thanks for proving the meme right.
My friend, read a bit of history, your whole society is based on genocide and exploitation.
I am not defending trump nor biden because the whole country should be treated as the Chernobyl exclusion zone.
Since you asked, Biden increased police, ICE, and detention center funding to their highest levels. Because of Biden's 69 cop cities across the country local police and ICE are being trained by IDF, the same people that trained Derek Chauvin when he murdered James Floyd. Before he left office he requested an additional 42k detention center beds be created.
Biden was enabling, paying for, and funding that genocide then denying there was one. Harris wanted the world most lethal military while reiterating Israel has a right to exist and rh is will protect their interests.
How many were active during biden's campaign, how many did he not shut down?
Why was nothing done about abortion rights?
Why did he support (and not just "not being vocal" about) the israeli state during an active genocide?
Your "blue team" is just as complicit.
I don't think the person you're replying to is defending Biden. It isn't a defense of Biden's failure to act to say that Trump is, quite obviously, worse in every aspect. It is insane to think otherwise because the genocide got WORSE under Trump.
The point is that dipshits/losers/morons/accelerationists sit here and say both sides are bad, when one side is actively worse and they do not care that the one obviously worse side is killing multiple-folds more people while they pretend to smugly assert how good it must be to choose no evil while everyone else struggles to work with the hand they've been forcibly dealt.
You let me know when you step up and assassinate a billionaire, alright, bud? I'll respect your stance then.
We don't care about your respect, we don't respect anything liberals do while defending empire and their shade of fascism
"Everyone is a liberal that disagrees with me" is a great lie to tell yourself at night.