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I’ll be honest, I don’t like this.
If the tables are turned I wouldn’t like a right wing nut job doing this, I think it’s crass. At best it’s crass.
Don't get me wrong, if Erika Kirk wanted to make the world a better place she could start by hastening her trip to join Charlie in hell. I'll also happily agree that Charlie was less an innocent victim and more an enemy combatant in the ongoing conflict between fascism and humanity. Even so, I feel like the performative cruelty here isn't exactly a good look. I'm not criticizing anyone's feeling of catharsis or schadenfreude about Kirk's fate, but this was a public display. It took effort and planning. They made props. And as a piece of political theater, this is not what we ought to be about. The message shouldn't focus on Kirk's death, but on making sure his life is remembered accurately: as a fascist debate bro who took massive amounts of money by by. My uhhhhhhv the 3 the ⁴⁵⅚from the Epstein class to make internet memes for legtting them do whatever they want. A man who immediately abandoned any libertarian small-government principles he used to claim once it became clear that openly hating gays, immigrants, and nonwhite people was politically viable.
What do you mean "if"? This shit is nonstop on the right. Foh
Yeah I guess everyone already forgot about Paul Pelosi
nah, ding dong nazis can get fucked
they'd want to exterminate you, for fucks sake
To be honest, I don't like Nazis.
I don't like it when people go to college campuses to tell women that they have no worth. To tell trans people they aren't real. To tell black people that they have no culture outside of violence. To worship guns in a place where gun violence pervades but has no purpose. Honestly, I don't like fucking Nazis or the people who support them because they are overflowing with empathy for bad people.
If the tables were turned... Huh, they wouldn't be. Because most people don't create entire careers around violent retoric, nor die by the object of their affection while excusing violence.
Truth: If I spent a career fucking around it would also find out.
I agree with everything you said, I just don’t think this or stooping to their level achieves anything.
We shouldn’t be giving these people a platform, we shouldn’t be letting them preach their moronic and false shit.
They were celebrating your suicides a decade ago
I don’t care, I don’t give a fuck about these horrible people.
I’ll never out awful them, and they’ll never grow enough feelings to introspect.
I don’t want them doing this to others, even though I know they would and do.
The golden rule just doesn't work with fascists. The sooner people learn this, the sooner we'll be able to kill this ideology of hate.
I can want actual consequences and not want to stoop to their levels.
I have no desire to be a shithead like this.
Right, and they know this and take advantage of it. Forever.
How is doing this stopping them?
They’re just going to share this on their social media about how degenerate “liberals” are. They’ll never consider it to their own actions.
Who said anything about this stopping them
That kind of is the actual Ubermensch mentality, I guess. I respect that morality but I also know what they'd do to you for the crime of just being a gentle person.
Doing this kind of baseless shit doesn’t bring me joy or anything. I don’t see the point. These people have no sense of decency or irony, and they’ll never see or acknowledge they’re wrong until they face real consequences.
Actual consequences for nazis racists and bigots I’m all in favour of.
The point would probably be everyone's probably cut out for actually living in a gentle and egalitarian world. We'd just bring our baggage into it and ruin it for everyone else. There probably was a time where I was but I got it beat out of me and now I just find dudes fortnite dancing at the dead Nazi's wife irreconcilably funny. But it's more because actual in this current zeitgeist they're so far beyond the reach of any actual consequences.
I can't reconcile that situation with my desire to live in a world where we don't fuck with people. And I don't really think holding back and showing them kindness prompts the various Kirks of the world to look at anyone differently. It never protected me anyway.
You should give a fuck. He mocks kids who are in demographics where they may kill themselves because of people like him. But he does it on stage. With sponsors.
The difference is that they make fun of minorities getting killed. We make fun of fascists getting killed. It is not the same in any way.
I just don’t like stooping to their level. I’d rather actual fucking consequences.
Like if you do this you’re inviting yourself to get punched in the face. And if I was on a jury, someone doing this kinda shit and getting punched would be fine.
It’s not a high class endeavor to be sure, but when they go low someone needs to kick them in the teeth.
Then we can go back to the regularly scheduled highbrow programming.
agreed.
it is more ironic with Kirk standing for gun stuff but... yea, its... its quite awful to... do this stuff infront of his widow...
being all binary "haha right bad" can be fun, but we mustnt be that american about it.
I think his widow celebrates his death more then anyone.
oh really? if so, i didnt know. thanksies for sharing.
If you aren't even remotely familiar with the circumstances it may be better to just sit back and listen for a bit.
Crass? So what!
The difference is that right wing ideology is hate and violence. So it's not even close to the same thing.
Doesn't matter if is right or left ring. None sides gonna talk about Romenian Angels.
Let's not win the tasteless race.