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GSM Phones North America

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GSM (Global System for Mobile communications) is a cellular telephony standard that belongs to "second generation" of cellular technologies, aka 2G. First GSM networks went live in 1990s, but today most of them are being wrongfully shut down. This community is for appreciators of these fine Vintage Mobile Phones and those who fight to keep these phones and cellular networks alive.

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As I explained in previous posts, I am a refugee from Reddit, and this community is intended to be a refugee shelter for those whose beloved home country is /r/vintagemobilephones community on that big scary site. As explained in my last post, I was never banned by VMP subreddit mods, from what I can tell those mods were just as appreciative and supportive of my on-topic relevant content as the rest of that community - but Reddit site-wide admins inserted themselves as an insurmountable barrier between me and my native community.

So why did I not name this RetroLemmy community "vintagemobilephones" just like the one on Reddit? Answer: because neither I nor A2GC own that name. I am not the original founder of /r/vintagemobilephones, nor was I ever a member of its mod team - instead I was just a prominent technical contributor without any ownership stake. As of this writing, I do not yet have any way to contact any of the mods of that subreddit - hence I have no way of knowing if they even know what happened, and if they do, how they feel about it. Thus it would be wrong for me (or for A2GC as a company) to claim to be a successor to /r/vintagemobilephones on Reddit without having even spoken to any of the mods of the original community.

I thought about naming this community after A2GC, but then decided against it. A2GC seeks to become a small regional cellular operator in some of the more remote and rural locations in USA, and once we build out as such, we will stand on equals with AT&T, T-Mobile, Viaero Wireless, Union Telephone, GCI Alaska and so forth. It is clearly not appropriate to require a customer relation (or being a "customer in waiting", anxiously awaiting promised network build-out) for someone to be interested in Vintage Mobile Phones - hence the community needs a name that conveys a more expansive scope than just A2GC.

Then come some practical limits on my area of expertise. It is my understanding that anyone who creates a new community is expected to moderate it, and I do not feel qualified to moderate in areas that are outside of my expertise, both technical and geopolitical:

  1. In technical terms, GSM is not the only "retro" cellular phone technology for which Vintage Mobile Phones were made - far from it. Just in terms of "2G" technologies alone, GSM fiercely competed with CDMA and iDEN in its heyday, then there are "1G" analog technologies such as AMPS, C-Netz and NMT, and then there is a "1.5G" transitional technology as in D-AMPS or "TDMA" as it was called in North America. All of these technologies have their own devotees, each of them is beloved to some people, and all of them were represented in the original Reddit community. Yet out of these technologies, the only one in which I consider myself an expert is GSM.
  2. Why North America, why not just USA or in the opposite direction, the whole world? When it comes to Vintage Mobile Phones, different frequency bands were adopted by EU and USA, and then by other countries that followed these two different leads. All of Eurasia and many other parts of the world (with which I have very limited familiarity) eventually adopted GSM frequency bands that were originally defined/invented by some regulators somewhere in EU, while Federal Communications Commission in USA defined a different set of frequency bands for early cellular networks in USA. Canada and Mexico copied these frequency definitions from USA FCC, and thus all of North America became technologically harmonized when it comes to early (1G and 2G) cellular systems - but EU and most of the rest of the world harmonized on a different standard.

Newer phones, including late 2G era, were made triband or quadband, covering both geopolitical regions - but all early GSM/2G phones were made for one region only, either for EU-led world or for North America. While many of the same companies made "parallel" models for the two markets, differing only in frequency bands, once there are two different physical variants being made, other differences inevitably crept in. Hence Vintage GSM phones made for North American market constitute their own category, distinct from early GSM phones in EU.

Now on to practical matters: while I consider myself an expert only on North American GSM phones and not any other category of Vintage Mobile Phones, this community is a refuge for anyone who has been wronged by Reddit in one way or another, and anyone who would like to stand in fellowship with those of us wrongfully banned from that site. Therefore, if you would like to post some interesting content about Vintage Mobile Phone technologies other than GSM, or VMP topics or issues or concerns that exist geographically outside of North America, please feel welcome to post or comment! Maybe some day the original founders of /r/vintagemobilephones will create a properly blessed mirror community here, or maybe someone else will step in - but until then, please use this rule of thumb: anything that would be welcome in /r/vintagemobilephones on Reddit is also welcome here.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

not sayin its easy... and youre going to receive no reddit sympathy here

many subs have discord channels... mods have email..

...but you cant just make a space and hope. youll need to be more proactive

[–] mnfalconia_a2gc@retrolemmy.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Our (A2GC as a company) current plan is to hire some paid labor (involving real, actual cash) for some non-Reddit-banned human to do the necessary outreach to the original VMP community.

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Someone with no prior involvement on that subreddit being paid to promote a service unfortunately probably isn't going to convince its userbase to switch to Lemmy without moderator support and an existing reason for them to be dissatisfied with Reddit (as most Redditors don't seem to be bothered by the continued enshittification of the platform).

[–] mnfalconia_a2gc@retrolemmy.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Convincing anyone to "switch" is indeed not realistic, but many users of GSM/2G phones in USA are mad-pissed about T-Mobile artificially blocking said phones from their network. The only way to get around said block is to connect to TMO in roaming mode, with someone other than TMO themselves (or an MVNO hosted by them) as your "home" operator from which you receive your SIM card and to which you pay your monthly bill.

Creating a brand-new cellular phone company specifically tailored to the needs of Retro Mobile Phone users, compliant with all relevant FCC rules so we can not only operate without getting shut down, but also use FCC rules to compel T-Mobile into letting us roam on them, is an undertaking that is not for the faint of heart. The situation with TMO artificially blocking 2G users goes back to at least 2019, people have been crying and lamenting about the situation for years, but I am the only person so far who stepped forward to actually do something about it. I put my knowledge and skills as a professional telecom engineer to use, I recruited additional people (physically local to me) to serve as the needed officers and directors (a non-profit org requires more than one person), I spent hundreds of hours poring over incredibly complex FCC rules until I finally got them figured out, and between me and other founding members, we got many thousands of dollars invested into this venture already. So whether Reddit admins or subreddit mods or whoever else like it not, there is no one else right now who can actually satisfy the real needs of GSM/2G phone users in USA.

And if the only team/company/group who actually does something to provide a real service to GSM/2G phone users in USA has its chief technical talent banned from Reddit by AI - then going to Lemmy would be the only way for interested parties to reach the necessary technical content...