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Yes that's because it sounds great on paper but in practice it just doesn't work.
I encourage you to move to any socialist country on earth.
And don't say china they have one of the biggest free markets on the planet with some of the richest CEO's.
Literally every other developed nation on the planet is socialist. Coincidentally we happen to rank near last for every meaningful metric among the developed nations.
No, they aren't.
This is exactly the problem. People use the word "socialism" to describe anything they happen to like and then wonder why nobody takes the discussion seriously.
Denmark isn't socialist. Sweden isn't socialist. Norway isn't socialist. Germany isn't socialist.
They all have private ownership of the means of production, private investment, stock markets, billionaires, wage labor, and profit-driven corporations. In other words, capitalism.
What you're describing is social democracy, which is a capitalist system with varying degrees of welfare spending and regulation.
And the claim that America ranks "near last on every meaningful metric" is just as detached from reality.
The United States consistently ranks among the wealthiest countries on Earth, has some of the highest disposable incomes in the world, produces a disproportionate share of global scientific research, dominates technology, finance, aerospace, entertainment, and higher education, and remains the destination millions of people actively seek to immigrate to every year.
You can certainly find metrics where the U.S. performs poorly compared to peer nations. Healthcare outcomes, life expectancy, and certain measures of inequality are common examples. But "near last on every meaningful metric" is the kind of statement someone makes when they get their understanding of the world from memes and comment sections.
So when I ask to name a successful socialist country and someones response is to redefine capitalist countries as socialist while pretending the world's largest economy is somehow a failed state, you're not making an argument. You're repeating internet slogans.
Yep, exactly the issue.
You see the term socialist and think full tilt communism.
Sweden, Norway and Denmark have strong socialist aspects. They are not socialist or communist like the bad examples of cuba or self proclaimed to be so north Korea.
Socialism can be used in doses, the right amounts.
Just like capitalism is horrific if overdosed like in America, socialism to the extreme is also bad.
It's about finding the right balance.
Absolutely correct. I'm not in support of what we're doing in America here. In fact I'm completely against it. We're no longer capitalists. We're something entirely different at this point. Something quite terrible.
There's nothing socialist about these countries...
Edit: well maybe not "nothing" as they still have a universal healthcare, but most of the wealth accumulating problems of capitalism are very much there. It's only a matter of time until it reaches a breaking point