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[–] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The USSR wasn't communist anyway, it was fascist, just a different brand. They pretended to take everything "for the people", but really then just gave everything to the powerful, not the people. That's not communism at all. There has never been a truly communist major power. Can't be communist with power centralized to a few people like current China, North Korea, or USSR. Maybe they started trying to become communist, but they never got very close even, it's in name only. Just like the Nazi party in Germany wasn't at all Socialist, but that's part of the actual name.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't really think we're ever going to find a way for communist ideas to flourish in the context of national power. It can exist, I still believe, but requires more human-scale political structures. That's the kind of anarchism I can get behind.

[–] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It requires removing those who seek to exploit by criminalizing it or creating taxation systems that punish the acquisition of too much wealth. It's definitely possible, but that has to be ingrained in the government's constitution that even government leaders/coordinators can not acquire excessive wealth or property. Also, only individuals should be treated as people with rights, not collectives/companies including the ability to own things. The collective/company itself should never own something only the people who make it up. That then completely removes the legitimate market for things like yachts unless they are owned collectively and equally by all people in the collective. Then eventually communism, or something like it, because no individual form of government can exist 100% as it's ideologically defined, can evolve from that.

But convincing enough people to do that is hard. Most people think they can become rich and don't want even the sliver of a chance to be taken away. Same people who regularly play the lottery or other gambling whose odds are extreme. They are willing to waste time and money on just the slim chance to exploit others even if that means most of them become the exploited. Until that mentality is removed from society, there's little chance of the level of cooperation needed for communism to eventually evolve.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't really disagree. I try to mainly talk about how things are, because talking about how they should be pisses me off to no end.

[–] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I get that.