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Still not sure if the tankies actually believe their own nonsense, or if it's some 4chan-esque facade that Trumpers get a kick out of posting under some insufferable 'blue MAGA' persona.
I mean, they're Trumpers either way, but do they actually realize that?
probably drank the same koolaid as magats would. they even use the same PC buzzwords.
Tankies are tribal loyalists whose chosen ingroup is leftists and alleged leftists. They do not understand the latter distinction. Like all conservatives, their stated ideals are ad-hoc justifications. Claims cannot contradict, in this worldview, because claims are not evaluated; they are only a card-shuffling word game to establish superiority.
They think that's all you're doing. They think that's all there is.
I'd say the split is around 50/50.
Some truly believe this crap, and the rest are LARPing MAGAts
I don't know, but we need to make a distinction between their users which are generally really cool, and the leadership which is a bunch of boot lickers to Russia and China.
I mean, not all users on Lemmy.ml are horrible people, but conversely after discounting hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml, the most batshit insane comments left that I would see inevitably came from Lemmy.ml.
I do not regret blocking the entire instance. Maybe some innocent people get excluded that way, but that's a price I am absolutely willing to pay to avoid the insanity. And it's not like the opinions about ML are not widely known - someone who remains on that instance despite all that goes on there surely knows that being blocked is likely a possibility, so I don't let their recalcitrance get in the way of me enjoying my time on the Threadiverse.
I hear you, and if I was a blocker, I would block them as well. They deserve to be blocked.
Although you might be surprised as to the insights of some of their users. You never know.
The same can be said of discourse with MAGA supporters, and sometimes I have been yes (both ML leftists online and irl MAGA). Though for every time that has happened, I see 1000 comments from the likes of e.g. Cowbee who is disingenuous, and just random commentors across the entire Threadiverse, making that instance overall not worth my time.
Also, I don't even need an account to read comments from everyone, and viewing any post from its original host generally allows me to see the full complement of comments, but it is an exceedingly rare event (perhaps once a year) that I feel that I have missed out on something by not seeing comments from ML users regularly.
The noise to signal ratio is simply too high for my tastes. And since seeing such scares off people from joining the Threadiverse, which affects us all overall, it's an actual effectual matter.
While definitely more exaggerated in the leadership, it's definitely the users too. Not every .ml is a trumper, but a huge portion of the trumpers I've run into here are .ml ...I'm guessing the divide is in large part due to the process of picking your first instance - a lot of us just threw a dart at a map of the fediverse and settled where it landed, cuz getting started here when all you've messed with previously are sites like Reddit is a major pain in the ass. So, some of them are sincerely decent, they just wandered into a bad neighborhood.
There is a base that is really not more insane than any other base necessarily.
I bet half if not more of this group believes that if we only believed in Kamala harder she would have won , it's not the fault of the democratic party and Kamala harris, it's the fault of the voters for not believing her enough.
Truth be it was a lost cause from the minute they anointed her, which I called by the way.
Which is all to say otherwise good people can be quite mistaken, and the majority of the users of that ml are cool from what I have experienced.
She was gaining steam. Idk if enough to actually win without any other hitches, but there were hitches, so who fuckin knows. I was hopeful up until that interview where they asked her about Isreal's genocide on Gaza, and he response was something to the effect of "we'll do everything in our power to uphold the security of Isreal" aka US bombs will continue to fall on Gaza.
Even that was still better than Trump, but she lost an insane amount of single issue voters with one breath; meanwhile the Trumpers were cheering for genocide from day 1, so when the blue team gets to choose between more vs less genocide which understandably burns them out; and the red team gets to choose more vs less genocide and can't push through the corpses of brown children fast enough to hit that 'more' button... yeah, we were fucked from that moment on.
...not to say the anointment was a good move. The DNC fucked us again.
Point being that fault doesn't fall on any one group. Would-be blue voters fucked us by not showing up, the DNC fucked us by propping up a walking corpse through an entire presidency, Harris fucked us by overtly supporting genocide, red voters fucked us for choosing the greater evil, and Trump fucked us like one of his 14 year olds on Epstein's island by being the serial worst-case-scenario every fucking time.
Collectively, the US failed about as miserably as it possibly could from every single angle.