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While definitely more exaggerated in the leadership, it's definitely the users too. Not every .ml is a trumper, but a huge portion of the trumpers I've run into here are .ml ...I'm guessing the divide is in large part due to the process of picking your first instance - a lot of us just threw a dart at a map of the fediverse and settled where it landed, cuz getting started here when all you've messed with previously are sites like Reddit is a major pain in the ass. So, some of them are sincerely decent, they just wandered into a bad neighborhood.
There is a base that is really not more insane than any other base necessarily.
I bet half if not more of this group believes that if we only believed in Kamala harder she would have won , it's not the fault of the democratic party and Kamala harris, it's the fault of the voters for not believing her enough.
Truth be it was a lost cause from the minute they anointed her, which I called by the way.
Which is all to say otherwise good people can be quite mistaken, and the majority of the users of that ml are cool from what I have experienced.
She was gaining steam. Idk if enough to actually win without any other hitches, but there were hitches, so who fuckin knows. I was hopeful up until that interview where they asked her about Isreal's genocide on Gaza, and he response was something to the effect of "we'll do everything in our power to uphold the security of Isreal" aka US bombs will continue to fall on Gaza.
Even that was still better than Trump, but she lost an insane amount of single issue voters with one breath; meanwhile the Trumpers were cheering for genocide from day 1, so when the blue team gets to choose between more vs less genocide which understandably burns them out; and the red team gets to choose more vs less genocide and can't push through the corpses of brown children fast enough to hit that 'more' button... yeah, we were fucked from that moment on.
...not to say the anointment was a good move. The DNC fucked us again.
Point being that fault doesn't fall on any one group. Would-be blue voters fucked us by not showing up, the DNC fucked us by propping up a walking corpse through an entire presidency, Harris fucked us by overtly supporting genocide, red voters fucked us for choosing the greater evil, and Trump fucked us like one of his 14 year olds on Epstein's island by being the serial worst-case-scenario every fucking time.
Collectively, the US failed about as miserably as it possibly could from every single angle.