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[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Autoignition temperature of natural gas is above 500c. Need a spark, or enough heat, there could even be a leak and this not be enough heat to ignite.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I’m pretty sure if it’s red hot it’s close to if not over 500°C but I guess it depends on the metal.

At least according to this Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heat

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My understanding is that it doesn't really depend on the metal much. It's just the blackbody radiation associated with that temperature. So basically anything glowing red from heat is probably over 500°C.

"As the object increases in temperature to about 500 °C (773 K; 932 °F), the emission spectrum gets stronger and extends into the human visual range, and the object appears dull red."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-body_radiation

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The intensity does depend on the emissivity of the material, and emissivity is a bit counterintuitive:

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/emissivity-coefficients-d_447.html

But less than you’d think, given the extreme coefficient, as human perception of brightness is nonlinear. An object twice as bright as another looks pretty similar to the eye.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the correction. I'm absolutely not gonna pretend I fully understand this, but isn't it still the case that anything glowing red from heat pretty much has to be over 500°C? I.e. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draper_point ?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah, for sure. That pipe is hot.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So when you say "Autoignition", then ignition of what? For natural gas to "ignite", as in burn or in other words oxidize, there need to be an oxidizer present.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

there could even be a leak…

Autoignition here is referring to the temperature at which it will ignite immediately upon mixing with oxygen. Below that temperature, they can mix and not burn (like what happens with a gas leak).