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[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just like Income tax. When they vest.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I think that doesn't work well due to price fluctuations of the stocks and avoiding double taxing, but I don't understand stock options and current tax laws enough to be confident about that.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

price fluctuations of the stocks

Average price over the last 30 days.

avoiding double taxing,

Submit a claim for repayment.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Average price over the last 30 days.

There are so many issues with this idk where to start. Maybe with: not all stock given as compensation are publicly traded yet. There may be no average price yet when they vest.

PS: Also, the original comment proposes taking 40% of the shares, not monetary equivalent which I originally misunderstood as well. So neither of our comments is really rellevant.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s the point. If you get paid $10 at 30% tax the government takes 3 of the dollars. If you get paid $10 and 10 options, the government takes 3 dollars and 3 shares (when they vest). Simple as that.

Deciding what to do with the shares as the government is a hairy problem though.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ok, I see what you mean, but now you have government holding stocks with 0 idea if they should cash out or hold. Both cases could result in the government loosing out on tax money.

If government immediately sells, and you hold until the stocks are 10x the value, the governmwnt lost out on 90% of the money.

If government holds and you sell, the government stocks can become worthless (e.g. company goes bankrupt) and again lose out on tax money. Plus government needs money in the budget, not stocks.

This is why you usually tax the income when you sell the shares. The loophole is taking a loan against those shares, but if you ask me, the answer is to tax the loan money and make repayments tax deductible. The loan is basically getting the money from selling shares early, so it should be taxed when you get it.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Maybe the shares could go to a sovereign wealth fund with staff employed to try and maximize the value of the fund over the long term?

That makes sense if you have a balanced government budget or a surplus. But if you are running a deficit, you want cash.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Maybe congress gets voting shares...essentially making "the American people" a part-owner of the company. All companies.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

avoiding double taxing

Who cares? Even double-taxing the billionaires is still the moderate compromise position, compared to the guillotine.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

The guillotine is a dumbass fantasy that prevents people from having to think about real options while cosplaying on the internet.

Who cares? If the goal is the universal application of the law, that goal is not obtained when you use the law to apply to people you don't like.