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[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The heck is even the logic here?

In the Senate, we shouldn't run competitive candidates in primaries if someone else wants to run and is Black?

And in Congressional races, even though the Florida DNC membership are the ones complaining, the Democrats should, I dunno, threaten Wasserman-Schulz until she stops running?

Essentially, when we dislike candidates based on their race, the DNC should exercise totalitarian control and remove candidates of whom we do not approve but when we like a candidate like Bernie, the DNC doing anything to interfere is the epitome of evil and authoritarianism...

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don’t know everything about the guy, but Colonel Vindman was the whistleblower in the first Trump administration. He seems like an honorable dude to me.

It’s possible he’s very corporate friendly. I don’t know. He’s more than just some random Democrat though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Vindman

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Vindman just voted yea on a bill that requires teachers to out trans students to abusive parents.

EDIT: Wrong Vindman. His brother Eugene voted to out trans kids to abusive parents. Alex did not.

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So just another fascist.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you have a news article about that? Last I saw he isn’t an elected official, only running for office (as the Wikipedia article I linked describes).

Let’s hope you’re just confusing him for someone else because your comment is reprehensible otherwise.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So, I was thinking of Eugene Vindman, not Alex Vindman. My mistake.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

All good. Thank you.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I don't know a heck of a lot about the primary matchup but letting people pick their candidate in a primary instead of deciding for them seems reasonable.

And of all the candidates, a military guy who came forward and nearly got trump impeached seems like a decent one to offer. I remember watching his testimony and being quite impressed.

OP's framing seems disingenuous at best.

[–] Gaja0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Context, the wiki says he basically sparked the first impeachment by exposing the Ukraine deal.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree with you, if we assume there was a free and fair primary. If there was then fine, they earned it. If they won because they had the most donations, likely orchestrated by the establishment DNC, then it isn't free and fair. This is almost certainly the case since it's totally allowed legally, and has been the way things have worked since at least Citizens United, but really far longer.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree with you, if we assume there was a free and fair primary.

This is the point, for sure. It wasn't for nothing that the Dems argued publicly for their right to rig primaries when they were sued for it in Florida after rigging the primary against Bernie.

It's not about quality. It's about complicity, and they're happy to run black candidates who play ball with the billionaires and Israel. Just look at Cory Booker.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The heck is even the logic here?

Something along the lines of "We're the DNC. So FUCK YOU! We're not allowing there to be another option that isn't just straight up fascist"

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't understand this. The point of the primary is to compete within the party. If the candidate with the best platform for the parties voters win then that's good. Stop trying to get people to vote for the worse platform because "race." That being said I would prefer the DMC to only put a thumb on the scale when the candidate is very outside the parties values (fetterman)

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You might not be deep into the lore, but Debbie Wasserman Schultz is like, she orchestrated the fix within the DNC to prevent Bernie from beating Hillary as head of the DNC. She put as much weight as she could on the scales to ensure a Trump versus Hillary contest, effectively setting up the modern fascist movement as we understand it today.

So..

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago

Well, hrc is fash af. They didn't call her "killary" for no reason, in latam.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The point of the primary is to compete within the party.

The point of the party is to run the primaries in such a way that no actual competition happens.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

I think their logic is that the psychos in power want to stay in power even if it means joining republicans in throwing minorities under the bus. I think the screenshot fails to mention that at least one of those candidates changed districts bc they were gerrymandered out of relevance. So, they’re not simply running against people who better represent their community, they’re also doing an imperialism.