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That puts us at 0.006% of the global population. How did I arrive at 500k? I kinda made it up based on carnivore study populations, but its super duper tiny. I looked everywhere, I can't really find a solid estimate. But we are totally in the dozens of us category.

I NEVER meet another zero carb carnivore anywhere organically. Plus there is huge stigma for being a carnivore. EVERYONE thinks I'm crazy.

  • Omnivore - 73% - 6,000M
  • Flexitarian - 14% - 1,100M
  • Vegetarian - 5% - 400M
  • Pescatarian - 3% - 250M
  • Vegan - 3% - 250M
  • Zero Carb Carnivore - 0.006% - 0.5M

Using ipsos (broad strokes good enough) for the other eating pattern data

It's fine to be a minority group. Live and let live.

There are some people who simply cannot suffer us in our little corner of the internet at all. My poor little community script runs every day and bans many accounts for just downvoting all the posts in the community. https://discuss.online/modlog/696952

I've dug into the many of the non-obvious-sockpuppet accounts, and it seems most of the hate directed at us comes from our nearest neighbor at 3% total population. A group 500x more popular.

I really wish we could just be friends, let's agree that whole foods, totally unprocessed is good, and leave each other alone as allies in improving everyone's health. I'd like that. This childish animosity doesn't help anyone.

Perhaps this is just the cost of being a small fringe eating pattern, easy target for other less small groups to hate.

Eyeballing daily active users on the fediverse it looks like we have about 7,000 unique users every day. There are about 3 carnivores - which puts us at 0.04% of the lemmy population.

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[–] NightFantom@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Good points, one thing I think you're missing is the amount of cropland that's being used to feed future meat. Your "if every cow was dead" is only valid if all of those cows were purely grazing, and that's just not true for the grand majority.

I do believe herding goats in the mountains unlocks dairy and meat where before there was nothing (for humans, an argument can be made that we should leave some parts of nature alone), but let's not delude ourselves that beef doesn't waste cropland.

Your arguments for diabetes are also not as valid in the rest of the world where the average person isn't overweight lol.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I agree factory farming is unsustainable both the monocropping and beef factories.

Your arguments for diabetes are also not as valid in the rest of the world where the average person isn’t overweight lol.

Diabetes doesn't require obesity. Type 2 diabetes is running through the world even in "thin" countries https://discuss.online/post/40153940

  • India is the world leader - 212 million 26%
  • China is a distant second - 148 million 18%
  • USA is lagging behind at third - 42 million 5%

[–] NightFantom@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think you misinterpreted the number in brackets in the infographic you linked there, it's percentage of the global diabetic population, not percentage of the population of that country (which I too hoped to see, because without that comparison it's useless numbers)

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

it’s percentage of the global diabetic population, not percentage of the population of that country

That is a fantastic catch! Let me do some math to get the % population with T2D for each country.

  • India (2020 Pop 1,400m, 212m T2D, 15% of the population)
  • USA (2020 Pop 331m, 42m T2D, 12% of the population)
  • China (2020 Pop 1,400m, 148m T2D, 9.5% of the population)

Changes the rankings a bit, USA is #2!

They do have a prevalence chart, but it shows rate over time