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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 39 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah no joke, he took that pardon didn't he? Fuck him.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

To be fair I would take the fuck out of a pardon if I ever got one. Literal get out of jail free card.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I'm pretty sure there is no choice. If you're pardoned then you're released. You can try and stay in prison but they'll drag you out just like they dragged you in.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Except you admit guilt by accepting the pardoned and commuting your crime. You can never ever change your plea or answer.

But otherwise, yeah, I agree.

[–] jve@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Why would this be true?

If you pled not guilty, got convicted, and got pardoned, that would imply admitting guilt?

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

Because you automatically admit guilt when you take a pardon. Please whatever you want, taking a pardon makes you instantly guilty of the crime regardless.

You can also no longer plead the 5th, you MUST answer questions regarding your crimes and the crimes of others.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

To paraphrase Chris rock "You can look innocent in jail or guilty at the mall"

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 2 points 10 hours ago

Oh like anyone gives a fuck about that now lol. Come on.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, what? Does this matter? Can I normally change my plea? I'm fascinated please elaborate

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's more like you can plead not guilty but still be convicted. So by accepting the pardon you are admitting you are in fact guilty. Kinda fucked in other situations really.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 4 points 12 hours ago

This is not actually true. It was once person's excuse for not wanting to accept a pardon in the past.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 12 hours ago

Does any of that matter in the real world though? Compared to getting out of jail for free.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

He took an opportunity to avoid tortuous rape hell? Good for him. Nobody deserves to be in a US prison.

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

The people creating and supporting that system do deserve it though... it's just the taxpayers don't deserve having to pay for their parasitic asses any more than they already have.