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I made a post on hierarchy a month ago but I have some more specific questions now.

I've been hit with the claim that mass production industries that are needed today would not be possible without a hierarchy. That due to regional limitations and the logistics of smartphone manufacturing, technology cannot be produced on the needed scale without a hierarchy of managers.

This is quoted in PCB fabrication, as well as other areas such as medicine and other mass produced goods.

It is also said that managers are needed for efficiency, though I don't understand that.

Because the anarchist movement, abolishing hierarchy, "runs counter" to the "global direction of humanity and progress", it is acclaimed to being "doomed to failure" and "idealist".

What would be the anarchist response to this? Would appreciate detailed responses and/or resources.

I want to improve my anarchist understanding

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[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The thing about extreme high frequency x ray lithography is that its literally black magic and the machines literally do not work if the operators don't wish they were somewhere else its that suffering that longing for elsewhere that escape that allows the light to get small enough to cut 4nm MOSFETs and operators' consciousness to leak through the pneuma into the chips that's why computers actually have at least the fractional residue of souls and electrical engineers are all soulless husks its also why all the Asian chip fabs need suicide nets to keep workers because their souls are literally being stolen and they know it and why the big american chip fab is in phoenix az so you can't tell

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get this is satire but like idk something about global logistics of moving parts across countries being needed for manufacturing computers. Honestly I guess it's difficult to understand if I have no clue how computers are made to begin with.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It was made that way for the capitalism it can all be put in the same very very large building that's kind of what shenzhen is anarchists can and do do global logistics its just usually smuggling because States hate us so you don't hear about it in detail and we tend to prefer because shipping isn't free and people should be able but not have to rely on each other if they don't want to what I outlined there is only like half as stupid as claim in OP that authoritarianism is necessary