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I made a post on hierarchy a month ago but I have some more specific questions now.

I've been hit with the claim that mass production industries that are needed today would not be possible without a hierarchy. That due to regional limitations and the logistics of smartphone manufacturing, technology cannot be produced on the needed scale without a hierarchy of managers.

This is quoted in PCB fabrication, as well as other areas such as medicine and other mass produced goods.

It is also said that managers are needed for efficiency, though I don't understand that.

Because the anarchist movement, abolishing hierarchy, "runs counter" to the "global direction of humanity and progress", it is acclaimed to being "doomed to failure" and "idealist".

What would be the anarchist response to this? Would appreciate detailed responses and/or resources.

I want to improve my anarchist understanding

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[–] alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, we all need to remember that every smartphone, every cup of coffee is an exported exploitation pain and suffering. That we all partake in this mess routinely.

And I agree completely that anarchistic societies should not really attempt to replicate things that capitalism is capable of. Sure PCBs and chips could be scavenged and repurposed - something hierarchical system is TOTALLY incapable of, it being economically nonviable. Medicine production is whole another thing, local chemists could totally cater to all the finest needs in local community if only they wouldn't be busted by SWAT on day 1 like some drug making labs (which IMO should also be totally accepted in society so long as they don't turn into another capitalist abomination of control and pointless accumulation/exploitation). I feel this pain, being a chemist, so many opportunities to make our world a better place just made impossible by violence.