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In the latest episode of "they will always sell you out" - they sold you out! Who would've thought.

Hoping for a good alternative client to appear, the writing is on the wall. Vaultwarden can't exist without "leeching" off of Bitwarden.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

This is why corporate promises can never be trusted, because a new CEO can change those promises on a whim.

It's part of why despite being interested in Beeper, I never signed up for it because I had questions about if those privacy promises they made would be kept if they sold to a bigger company... which they eventually did.

On the plus side Bitwarden already made an official open source self-hosted version, which can be forked and/or return to the community developed Vaultwarden roots.

Meanwhile KeepassXC keeps on chugging along.

[–] northernlights@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

FYI beeper is really just matrix with bridges. Once I realized that I set up my own and now I have the same functionalities as beeper, self hosted, with a choice of clients.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I was well aware at the time, but I had a lot of friends who still struggled with trying to use Matrix/Element so at the time I was seeking a simpler solution for them.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

How fucking stupid do you need to be to struggle with element do they struggle to use cups are they trying to do weird advanced features on an architecture I've never heard of with a compiler built themselves wtf

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, usually people lose their shit and complain that Element is too complex and that me and the devs are being assholes asking them to use it... You know kind of like all the people here on the Fediverse who think we need to make it bigger and bring in everyone from everywhere and that the devs and users who defend them are awful for not focusing on user interface first and making it less confusing to choose a server...

Anyway, thanks for being on team reasonable, because I'm with you on this 100%, but I can't change how little people want to learn anything sadly so I make compromises with people who cant or wont learn how to do things. It sucks, people really don't seem to understand that security and convenience are a balance, and every time people argue for shit to be easier they're actually arguing for everything to be less secure. You sacrifice security for convenience, every time, and the opposite happens because you can sacrifice convenience for increased security measures. Security has to be complex by nature to be effective, and the core of Matrix is being a secure, encrypted protocol, which they have already actually put a ton of work into making easier for fucking normies. Yet, it's never enough for people. Always screams of "It's too complex! I hate thinking!"

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The buttons are in a different place oh god so much blood yes I resized the window what's your point

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

lmao God I can feel the frustration rising in me just thinking about it. I know these are digital rather than physical objects... but do these people fail to have object permanence?

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I feel like there's a very real rejection of consciousness and self reflection I feel that as a strange person who doesn't always accommodate defaults too its really depressing in a very real sense they're rejecting personhood based on protest and and silicon valley propaganda of normalcy and frictionlessness

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Not everyone is a tech nerd some of us just want our stuff to work stop asking us to be nerds too this is why everyone hates you fix it fix it fix it