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[–] Brewchin@lemmy.world 80 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I think my irony meter just broke. The company that takes freely published papers* and paywalls them for extortionate profit is mad that that someone else is making money off free content?

I propose a trial by mortal combat. It's the only logical solution.


*You'll be hard pressed to find a published researcher who thinks well of the Elsevier distribution monopoly, and it's even harder to find one that won't send you a PDF copy for free if you just ask for it.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

By freely published you mean papers that are published by paying them, right?

They take money for papers to be published, they force researchers to freely peer review, and then they paywall the fuck out of that paper. It's one of the biggest scams I've ever read about, 10 years ago... Thank god computer science, math and physics (basically most STEM) have arXiv...

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Indeed. I'm not sure who to root against in this one.

[–] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

I am truly hoping that they will destroy each other. These are two tumors of our civilization. One is lodged in our society and is eating our humanity and social interactions, the other is eating away our knowledge and innovation.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

There's no irony there. It's what Elsevier does. They have no qualms about looting research budgets and sabotaging science in the process. They won't make an exception for open source AI.

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They also have the worst website that never works even if you have access

I would agree, that some parts of the Elsevier website are quite shit but I would not come even close to saying its unusable in any form.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Saint Elbakyan, please redeem us. Give us our daily papers and don't lead us to paid open access.