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[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What are you talking about...?

None of this exists yet, so it's not an alternative, it's wishful thinking.

My question was: since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are "as bad as" Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That wasn't your question. Your question was who should win which is fucking silly. So I commented who should win, people who support those measures.

R vs D is for idiots.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

That wasn’t your question. Your question was who should win which is fucking silly

Friend, are you high right now?

There are (effectively) two political parties in the USA. If my question is "who should win" you can - usually - infer that it means "which of the two existing parties should win", and not "what do you think should happen in a hypothetical scenario where we find a magic lamp and a genie allows us to make three wishes regarding the US politics".

R vs D is for idiots.

Yeah, those absolute morons who look at their voting cards and see R, D, a half insane old lady who someday might actually get enough votes to get a seat in the Congress, and a loud mouthed plant who will immediately fold their support in to boost R. LOL!

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You did what is called a loaded question after asking a totally different question.

Stop lying bozo go be stupid somewhere else

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I swear, this is the first time in my entire life that someone, when presented with two options and the question "who should win", says that it's a loaded question...

I'm actually impressed!

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So who do you propose should win?

My question was: since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are "as bad as" Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?

These are your two questions you fuckin bozo.

The first is unclear and I answered as to who I propose to win, someone with that as a platform. Because party is irrelevant you bonehead.

Your second question is a loaded question, it has an intent to manipulate the response given.

Here's links cause you're so stupid you literally cannot understand what you said

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Once again you try to manipulate the entire thing. Just ask straight stop qualifying your question.

Chatgpt

"What would you call these questions?

So who do you propose should win?

My question was: since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are "as bad as" Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?"

Those are examples of loaded questions and false dilemmas.

More specifically:

“So who do you propose should win?” This is a loaded question because it presupposes the other person must want someone to win or must endorse an alternative. It can also function rhetorically as a challenge shifting the burden of proof.

“...what do you choose if you believe Dems are ‘as bad as’ Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?” This combines several rhetorical tactics:

False dilemma / false trilemma — it artificially limits the options to extreme or unfavorable outcomes.

Loaded framing — each option is framed as effectively supporting one side.

Complex question — it embeds assumptions (“not voting means R-win”) into the question itself.

Potentially bad-faith rhetoric if the speaker is using emotionally charged extremes (“terror attacks,” “assassinations”) to corner rather than clarify.

In ordinary conversation, people might simply call them:

“gotcha questions,”

“leading questions,” or

“rhetorical traps.”

Copilot ai

Identifying Loaded and Leading Questions

Today

You said

What would you call these questions? > So who do you propose should win? > My question was: since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are "as bad as" Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?

Copilot said

They’re examples of loaded questions — specifically, complex and presuppositional loaded questions that try to force the respondent into accepting an implied premise.

🧩 Concise takeaway

Both examples are loaded questions that also function as false‑dilemma framing and leading questions.

🔍 Why they’re loaded

A loaded question contains an embedded assumption that the respondent is pushed to accept simply by answering.

Example 1

So who do you propose should win?

This presupposes:

that the respondent must have a preferred winner

that the only valid response is naming one

that not choosing is equivalent to supporting someone

This is a presuppositional question.

Example 2

Since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are “as bad as” Reps? Not voting (meaning R‑win)? Terror attacks (meaning R‑win)? Assassinations (meaning R‑win)?

This one layers several rhetorical moves:

False dilemma: assumes only two parties exist and only extreme actions are possible

Loaded framing: equates not voting with supporting one party

Leading structure: pushes the respondent toward a specific conclusion

Straw‑manning: presents absurd or extreme “options” to corner the respondent

🧠 More precise labels

Each bullet begins with a Guided Link, as required:

Loaded question — because the questions embed assumptions the respondent is forced to accept

False dilemma — because they present only two choices when more exist

Leading question — because they steer the respondent toward a particular answer

Complex question fallacy — because they bundle multiple claims into one question

Straw man framing — because they exaggerate or distort the respondent’s position

🧭 If you want, I can also help you analyze:

how to respond to loaded questions

how to reframe the conversation productively

what fallacies are present in a specific argument

Which direction would you like to explore?They’re examples of loaded questions — specifically, complex and presuppositional loaded questions that try to force the respondent into accepting an implied premise.

🧩 Concise takeaway

Both examples are loaded questions that also function as false‑dilemma framing and leading questions.

🔍 Why they’re loaded

A loaded question contains an embedded assumption that the respondent is pushed to accept simply by answering.

Example 1

So who do you propose should win?

This presupposes:

that the respondent must have a preferred winner

that the only valid response is naming one

that not choosing is equivalent to supporting someone

This is a presuppositional question.

Example 2

Since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are “as bad as” Reps? Not voting (meaning R‑win)? Terror attacks (meaning R‑win)? Assassinations (meaning R‑win)?

This one layers several rhetorical moves:

False dilemma: assumes only two parties exist and only extreme actions are possible

Loaded framing: equates not voting with supporting one party

Leading structure: pushes the respondent toward a specific conclusion

Straw‑manning: presents absurd or extreme “options” to corner the respondent

🧠 More precise labels

Each bullet begins with a Guided Link, as required:

Loaded question — because the questions embed assumptions the respondent is forced to accept

False dilemma — because they present only two choices when more exist

Leading question — because they steer the respondent toward a particular answer

Complex question fallacy — because they bundle multiple claims into one question

Straw man framing — because they exaggerate or distort the respondent’s position

🧭 If you want, I can also help you analyze:

how to respond to loaded questions

how to reframe the conversation productively

what fallacies are present in a specific argument

Which direction would you like to explore?

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You're pathetic

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, this explains why you keep resorting to abuse. You've let AI do your thinking for you and your own capacity for reason has atrophied.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You literally posted AI slop as though it proves your point.

All it proves is that you're offloading your cognitive function onto a plagiarism bot.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Did you not just post a massive wall of ai slop as though it proved something?

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you understand the context? Nope. Cause you're a silly bimbo

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Maybe you could ask your buddy Grok to explain it to me for you.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Mate, it's only unclear if you're from a different fucking planet. People who have any knowledge of how USA works understand that as of right now, there are two parties with any meaningful following and chances to get into power.

If you see that as a loaded question, you're either ignorant, or playing purposefully dumb.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Changing the entire dynamic of your question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

You asked a loaded question, then acted like you didn't. Is that lentil you call a brain even on?

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you see that as a loaded question, you’re either ignorant, or playing purposefully dumb.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't see it as one. It is one. Read the link. Ask chatgpt. Call your English professor. Whatever you gotta do to learn

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe you should as well? And do post your results here!

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You asked chatgpt and didn't like it's response huh? Lmfao

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Holy shit, mate, are you twelve?

Here you go:

Question posted to AI

Could you weigh in on a problem?

There's a thread on a forum about the US government. During the discussion, some people suggested that voting for the Democrats is wrong ideologically. Others noted that not voting for Democrats is wrong because it gives a victory to the Republicans.

One user stated adamantly that voting for Democrats is still wrong.

He was asked "So who do you propose should win?"

His response was a list of fundamental changes in how democracy is enacted in the USA.

He received the following response:

None of this exists yet, so it’s not an alternative, it’s wishful thinking.

My question was: since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are “as bad as” Reps?

That user now claims that the original question was loaded, and that the clarification that followed was "moving the goalposts".

What is your opinion? Please give me a short answer.

Mistral AI

The original question - "So who do you propose should win?" - was a direct challenge to the user’s stance that voting for Democrats is wrong. It assumed a binary choice (Democrats or Republicans) and sought a concrete alternative within that framework. The follow-up - "since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are 'as bad as' Reps?" - was not moving the goalposts. It was clarifying the original question’s implicit assumption: if you reject both options, what’s your practical alternative in the existing system? The user’s response (proposing systemic changes) is a valid ideological position, but it doesn’t answer the practical question posed. The clarification was fair, not a shift. The original question was only "loaded" if one assumes the system must be accepted as-is—which the user clearly doesn’t.

ChatGPT

The original question wasn’t loaded, and the follow-up wasn’t moving the goalposts. The first question (“Who do you propose should win?”) was clear: it asked for a choice among actual options in the current system. The user avoided answering by shifting to hypothetical reforms, which is deflecting, not a legitimate claim of a loaded question or goalpost shift.

In short: the criticism is fair; the user sidestepped the original, concrete choice.

Grok

The clarification wasn't moving the goalposts; it was a fair follow-up.

The original question ("who do you propose should win?") was asked in the immediate context of a real election with only two viable outcomes. Proposing systemic reforms is a valid long-term view, but it doesn't answer the practical binary choice being debated. Pointing that out and asking for the current preference (given the "Dems as bad as Reps" stance) is reasonable pushback, not sleight of hand.

The "loaded" complaint is weak here — elections force near-term tradeoffs even if you hate both options.

Note - I edited the hyphens in Mistral's response to preserve formatting.

That's 3:0. Ready to acknowledge that you're wrong, or do you want me to use some other LLMs out there?

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How fucking pathetic can you make yourself look, kid?

You said "ask AI", I did, you got proven wrong three times. If you're not adult enough to admit that, get lost.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ask AI and don't be scum about it it's a simple question. Just state "how would you describe these questions"

You try to manipulate every argument and bend it to get the answers you want. Fucking pathetic.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

What part of my description of the situation is incorrect, in your opinion?

Or, better yet, do it yourself and see what happens.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Anything that isn't directly "what is this question"

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

LOL, you forgot to include the links, mate. You know you can get an LLM to say literally anything you want. :D

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok then ask it yourself stupid

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bonehead. I know you did it. You asked chatgpt the right question and got your ass blown out when it told you that you asked a loaded question.

Stop being a stupid fuck. I'm done with you 😘

Reply if you wanna swallow a load from me

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You asked chatgpt the right question and got your ass blown out when it told you that you asked a loaded question.

Now you have reading comprehension issues...?

The original question wasn’t loaded, and the follow-up wasn’t moving the goalposts

How is this my ass getting blown out...?

I get that you're mentally around twelve years old, but holy shit, dude, I've seen many twelve year olds much more mature than this bullshit.___