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[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 76 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Shouldn't be legal, even for adults (like in Australia). This is the type of 20th century quackery we've come to expect from Dr Brainworm.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not a real doctor but I am a real worm — I am an actual worm.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I don't think they shouldn't be legal. I think adults should be able to do just about anything they want, even if it harms themselves, as long as it doesn't harm others. Having the government step in and stop any "harmful" behavior leads to them calling any behavior they don't like harmful. "Being gay/trans/etc is harmful."

They shouldn't be allowed to advertise though. We should be free to make our own decisions, and that means no one manipulating our behavior with advertising.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think adults should be able to do just about anything they want, even if it harms themselves, as long as it doesn’t harm others.

Then they can go lay on the beach or something, shouldn't let companies offer products and services that are known to be dangerous and unhealthy.

Rednecks: Muh tannin beds!

It is basically Nazi Germany for them.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree. If I want to use drugs that hurt me, I should be allowed to, for example. In my opinion, that's the government overstepping. They should regulate stuff, to make sure it is what it says it is, and make sure people are aware of the risks, and people aren't being manipulated. If they choose to harm themselves, they should be allowed to.

I should be able to eat junk food, or go skydiving, or drive a car, or whatever else I want to do if I'm OK with the risk. The government removing the choice is way too far. Their only role should be ensuring the risk is as known as possible.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree. If I want to use drugs that hurt me, I should be allowed to, for example.

That's what I said though, if you want to do something to yourself, go for it.

But companies shouldn't be allowed to knowingly sell harmful drugs.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How are you supposed to legally do something if it's illegal to purchase? That makes no sense. Why should the government be involved in deciding what you can and can't buy, beyond ensuring it is what it is and it isn't misleading or influencing you?

Also, all drugs are potentially harmful.

[–] NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think adults should be able to do just about anything they want, even if it harms themselves, as long as it doesn’t harm others.

Producing and selling a tanning bed does harm other people.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So doew producing and selling a car.

[–] NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So do you think selling cars should be illegal, or is "adults should be able to do just about anything they want, even if it harms themselves, as long as it doesn’t harm others" maybe just a tad too simplistic of a rule to decide what should or should not be allowed?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago

Obviously it's too simplistic. I didn't write a fucking law about it that needs to be perfect. This is a casual internet forum, and everyone knows that a statement like that isn't literal. Anything you do has some public risk, that we find acceptable.

A tanning bed doesn't though, besides potentially starting a fire, or things like that which we don't need to factor in here. Similarly, most drugs only harms yourself. Yes, there's some amount that ends up in the water supply, and distribution can cause harm (as is true for literally everything). The outside dangers are insignificant though and we do not need to discuss them further. If you want a more specific wording, "adults should be able to do what they want as long as the harm to others is below a socially acceptable threshold."