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[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Hear that, guys? There's nothing we can do. Let's pack it in and bend over!

Seriously fucking tired of this bOtH sIdEs R BaD bullshit propaganda.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Centrists were just handed evidence that second worst is not enough to win. They are doing their best to ignore it because they don't want to change.

[–] NerdyTimesOrWhatever@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No you just want everyone you disagree with to be labelled as evil and genocidal. You know not everyone is evil, right? Im sure we agree on a lot, but this trying to pin genocidal love on people is very annoying, and extremely EXTREMELY counter-productive.

Dont reverse Westboro yourself. Im sure you have a better way to express yourself. Put away the rage beatstick.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No you just want everyone you disagree with to be labelled as evil and genocidal.

The comment you're replying to doesn't even mention genocide.

You know not everyone is evil, right?

I know that candidates who refuse to stop selling weapons for an ongoing genocide are evil. It's explicit in the phrase "lesser evil."

Im sure we agree on a lot, but this trying to pin genocidal love on people is very annoying

I mean, you don't have to keep defending candidates that support genocide. But as I said before, the comment you're replying to doesn't even mention genocide. The top-level comment it's in response to doesn't mention it either, and neither does the comic that the top-level comment was in response to.

None of this changes my assertion that second worst is not enough to win. That's not purity testing or encouraging people not to vote. That's looking at the strategy employed by the democrats and pointing out that it failed. Doing the same thing next time will also fail. The party needs to change. The electorate won't.

[–] NerdyTimesOrWhatever@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Im not and havent supported or defended pro-genocide people. My original point is that you cant magically fingerwaggle a perfect person into existence. Stopping excess damage with a person we can actually speak english to at a level above a kindergardener, and can be reasoned with via protest if necessary.

Not insane people are probably easier to talk to, yeah?

Being so abrasive makes others want to vote less. You are actively making people less likely to vote.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My original point is that you cant magically fingerwaggle a perfect person into existence.

I'm tired of the insinuation that anyone who wants "not shitty all the time" is demanding perfection.

No matter how much contempt you have for the voters, they're still the only voters you have to work with. The electorate just showed you that second worst loses.

[–] NerdyTimesOrWhatever@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Not shitty all the time" is still not comparable to Trump. He literally sits in his own shit. The electorate was successfully stopped in multiple ways, including the explosion closer to the election about Palestine. Propoganda was used to push it crazy hard due to its volatility being so popular (in terms of clicks/views/whatever). I still stand by the point you probably wouldve held which is that we can protest to change minds. Larger protests against Harris and the USA as a whole continuing to support a genocide would have been more effective for keeping democracy around a little longer. We wouldnt get shot in the street for dancing in costumes or be consideres terrorists for protesting for LGBTQIA+ rights, as well.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

“Not shitty all the time” is still not comparable to Trump.

It doesn't need to be. It just has to be bad enough to keep enough people home. Second worst loses.

Larger protests against Harris and the USA as a whole continuing to support a genocide would have been more effective for keeping democracy around a little longer.

Maybe centrists should have joined in instead of shrieking abuse at the protesters.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Name one thing the DNC has done about Trump this year, WITHOUT saying they "can't do anything". When Republicans had a minority like theirs they stonewalled everything.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Name one thing the group that wasn't voted into power has done since their power was taken away? Well aside from blocking terrible bills and suing the Trump administration over executive actions and voter intimidation, DNC appointed judges have really been the only force of opposition the GOP has faced. You're right, though. It's not enough. Instead of voting more progressive candidates into the DNC we should just remove them from power entirely, and hand over all that remains of the government to the GOP since the DNC is so ineffectual. That will show them! Hear that everyone? Don't vote! If your vote mattered even a little bit then Republicans would be doing everything they can to make it more difficult for you while also astroturfing social media with bots and voter apathy memes, and since you want to act like they haven't been actively suppressing democracy and they were only caught doing that last bit in 2012, 2016, 2020, and 2024 and soon there won't be any proof of that then we can all rest easy knowing there's nothing we can do or could have done.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Instead of voting more progressive candidates into the DNC we should just remove them from power entirely, and hand over all that remains of the government to the GOP since the DNC is so ineffectual.

You're an actual idiot. No one is saying to do this. Everyone who criticizes the DNC wants that to be the result. They complain about the DNC being ineffective because of the CORPORATE DEMOCRATS who lead it. Replacing them with progressives would make the party actually good. People criticize the DNC because they want it to be better, not an enabler of the GOP. A bunch of progressives have already won primaries for state congress/senate races.

When they said 54% of Americans have reading comprehension under a 6th grade level they were not kidding. You're a live fucking example.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No, you are not and have not said that and neither have any of the other voter apathy memesters that pop up around election time and demonstrably increase voter apathy. But keep up the ad hominem, it's super endearing.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This comic is about Lucy yanking the ball away the moment Charlie tries to kick it. It's not trying to drum up voter apathy. People are still trying to kick the ball. The problem is that the DNC is actively fucking yoinking it from under people's feet and not delivering on their promises and don't want to do their fucking job. Demanding your party does what they were voted for to do is the bare minimum, but now it's apparently illegal, "making their jobs harder", and "causing their candidates to lose"?? Miss me with that bullshit. The fact you don't know the original context of the comic and immediately thought this was about making people to not vote speaks volumes about how offended you get at any mild criticism. You're a cultist. Get therapy.