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Im still trying to figure out how people like you think half the population voted for him. He won a plurality, which means more than his opponent. A majority is over 50%.
Only <65% people of voting age even voted (including 3rd party candidates). He didnt even win a majority amongst only those who voted. And who of the remaining 35%+ is fascist or anti-fascist? They're pretty vocal, now.
Any other option lmao. Dude, he's the least popular president in history. What are you huffing?
Regardless of supporting someone who attempted to overthrow our government, he is surrounded by convicted rapists and pedophiles. Why would he do that?
Regardless of his fascination with dictators and his love of rapists and pedophiles, his Iran war BS is being used explicitly for stock market manipulation. Presidents are not allowed to manipulate the stock market for profit. They actually have some pretty specific rules about what kind of money they can gain, use, and their possession of property is typically very scrutinized for a variety of reasons.
A rapist and pedophile loving, dictator admiring, stock market manipulating, genocide supporting and threatening, wonderful president.
Let me ask: Who won in 2020?
That's because democrat voters couldn't bring themselves to vote for a woman.
They said her problem was that she smiled too much.. Then the country chose the rapist who's destroying them as we speak.
American voters from both sides are responsible for all the death and suffering caused by their president.
And somehow it's never their fault.
Still he was elected by the american people, after being a convicted rapist and trying to overthrow democracy in the USA.
Americans should be ashamed that he even was a candidate.
Don't try to make excuses, americans did this.
Trillions being spent on a curated entertainment system (and protecting it) really does that. Fox Entertainment News (the real name of the show) is just allowed to misrepresent themselves as a non-satirical platform, though thats what they argued they were in court to try to get around lying constantly. They got sued due to election lies propogated by them on behalf of Trump. We know why now, its the threat of public humiliation (not even prison time) for wealthy people. If people find out Bezos eats babies, that wont stop Amazon from being profitable. People will just be repulsed by him to a further degree.
There needs to be a genuine mechanism for punishing media outlets for spreading malicious lies that literally resulted in a terrorist attack on the capital of the country. Like, what?
Yes, the laziness and assumed victory due to volume of people who were anti-Trump, and people who felt safe being anti-Kamala while voting for moral grandstanding reasons, thinking they wouldnt get punished by Trump winning because it seemed impossible, definitely fucked us over immensely. Propoganda is just better when you have a system that exerts absolute control over everything you see, hear, and read.
I live in a small republican town. They literally have no idea whats happening in the world around them. I spread the knowledge of what ICE is doing, and a tiny bit of change has happened. There are a LOT less redcaps and more people half-joking about ICE. Someone literally made a joke about calling them for a mexican standoff. I live around some racist people who dont care about deportations, until you describe and prove the conditions those poor people are forced to live in. Everyone they know watches fox. Everywhere has it playing on a tv in the corner, even a lot of stores do. Its hard to crack that egg because they're just SO FREAKIN INSULATED FROM REALITY. These are people who vote, but only hear about politics and the world outside their lives through their kids, when they listen to them.
These cudgel wielding, clay tablet carving asspickers are why we're here. Rupert Murdoch is a large part of why we're here. Poor education is 100% at fault for this. Im just around average intelligence and the people in this town think Im a genius. Great for my ego, terrifying for our future. Im not smart enough to make decisions about our future, or to completely understand what we're living through. If thats smart, we're fucked.
Yes, the people are definitely to blame. I fully agree. Anti-Kamala moral grandstanding and refusing to vote ruined us. I hope everyone who didnt vote for moral reasons sleeps well, knowing they incited and supported multiple genocides, including the one they were a widdle angwy about. We couldve fixed that with public opinion. We cant fix a dictator who has a psychotic koolaid following of people who genuinely think he's never done anything wrong. Some people here think 1/6 was a hoax or a protest, if they even know about it. Im not saying it isnt the fault of the people, but there was definitely a lot of money and cheating (as per usual) put into that election.
If you honestly thought that was true, aren't you saying it was irresponsible of the Dems to run a woman when the election was supposed to be an existential matter?
Maybe you're right, maybe it was irresponsible of them to trust the intelligence of americans.
They obviously don't, which is why they didn't run a primary.
But let's pretend that it was sexism that kade Harris lose. Isn't failing to anticipate that a huge error by Democratic leadership, who anointed Harris?
Correction, voters couldn't bring themselves to vote for an incompetent candidate. The Democrats had years to find someone electable and failed. Biden was a self-stated bridge candidate. Orange Julius was elected because the Democrats failed.
She was and still is objectively the most competent candidate, saying otherwise is exactly what enables trump. His propaganda works with you.
If she was competent she would have won the election. Just look at what she was running against. A clearly deteriorating Joe Biden was able to beat him in 2020 and buy the DNC some time to get their shit together. Why are some unable to see that the Democrats own a big chunk of where we are today?
Are you aware that the Biden administration, as a condition of Joe stepping aside, insisted that Kamala not deviate from the administrations policy positions at all? She was hamstrung from the beginning.
You may be unaware that when Joe stepped aside the only person who could legally replace him on the ticket was Kamala Harris.
Not to mention, during Trump's first two races, him and his cronies did everything they could to meddle with the results. Do we all think they just gave up on that the third time around?
Almost half of the voting population clearly saw the possibility of him becoming a president again, and decided that preventing that is not worth an afternoon of their time. That's a choice. That's a direct, active action that those people did.
Most of americans were either in favour or a pedo becoming their king, or didn't see anything wrong with it.
"Didnt have time because they were working to avoid homelessness" is also an option. That isnt a direct, active decision. Voting and getting your ballot thrown out isnt your fault, either.
A lot of ancient people who dont need to work are the ones voting against their, and our, best interests. Voter suppression, throwing out millions of valid democratic ballots, extra ballots with only Trump on them, a lot of interesting things happened in 2024.
Most people didnt vote for Trump. Most people who didnt vote who would have, actually abstained due to the success of the anti-Kamala Palestinian propoganda. It was a whole ultra-liberal BS thing that I saw a ton of. Some people certainly didnt care, but your phrasing makes it sound like you believe a majority of people wanted Trump in power. That is simply untrue.
Our country did what it usually does when it gets too comfortable: Get extremely angsty and shoot ourselves in the foot because we think one candidate is so obviously evil they cant win. We are (and this is true) as smart as a headless ostrich. Overconfidence and a lot of moral grandstanding got us where we are.
Hope you're happy, idiots. Thats not directed at you, just annoyed the comparison between eating gross tasting food vs trying to eat shards of glass resulted in people choosing shards of glass. George Carlin had a piece on something very similar, I just cant remember the exact quote.
I wouldn’t say that. There’s a lot of disenfranchisement going on with many people across the country. They could still be able to vote but for a myriad of reasons simply be unable to.
I guess so, but I don't think even with those people included, the statistics will change a lot. Unless there is way more people who were barred from voting, like, millions more. Which means there is so much deeper issue underlying all that, and nobody really talks and knows about it. Which will be so much worse.
— some idiots here who I am more and more convinced are bots or paid trolls.
What an apt description. Im still leaning towards (hoping, really) that its just more republican social outcasts.
When can you ever push back on the DNC for being unable to put forward a good candidate?
You can primary whoever you want. Go for it. Progressive policies are always popular with the youth, but those fuckers don’t vote.
Mandami kinda gives me hope, but I’m not going to hold my breath. If you can’t get the votes with progressive policies, don’t be surprised you end up with Pelosi, Clintons, etc. That’s politics. Or you can pretend your way is the only way and do whatever you want. Not like there haven’t been progressive candidates. They just don’t get votes.
Carter tried to treat the US like adults and run progressive policies, and we decided to boot him and go with Trump lite.
When someone is offering you fascism, you go with the non-fascist every time. Or not, I guess.
If you talk about primarying any DNC candidate they kick you out of the party
Big if true. Like, enormous if true.
David Hogg?
because 2/3 of voters did not vote against him, therefore they are either okay with it or were unable to vote
my assumption is that the size of the latter group, while significant, is not 15% of voters
By that token, more people didnt vote for Trump. That means he lost because 2/3 of people didnt vote for him.
not really how popular votes work