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Lots of lonely guys aren't lashing out and demeaning others either, but people don't notice them because they're not lashing out and demeaning others. They still get labeled as incels though, and if they find that hurtful then people will absolutely shred them for it anyway.
Also, they'll be shamed for bed rotting, and shamed for watching yuri. No matter what they do, they'll be shamed for it. So it's honestly not surprising when a number of them end up lashing out.
Are people calling those who don't behave like assholes "incel" though?
And do you think that women are not judged if they behave in the femcel manner?
It seems like you're applying a double standard, there.
Yes, people do call even the ones who aren't being assholes "incels." It's a derogatory term that gets used against anyone who doesn't get laid. Like calling someone a "virgin." It's shitty, and it promotes toxic masculinity. It also objectifies women by implying that men need to "get p***y" in order to be worthy of basic respect.
And I'm tired of hearing this excuse that "it doesn't refer to literal involuntary celibates, it refers to redpilled misogynistic jerks." But that simply isn't true, because people definitely apply it to literal "involuntary celibates" and use it as an insult like calling someone a "virgin." It's childish and immature. Also, there are lots of misogynistic jerks who get laid. Focusing all your ire on "incels" misses the point entirely, lets those people off the hook, and perpetuates the issue by communicating the subtext that "you can be a misogynistic jerk as long as you get laid, and then we'll still respect you." If you can't see how that's toxic and detrimental to society, then I can't help you.
They're more likely to be fetishized, which is bad in a different way. But it certainly hasn't risen to the level of a cultural pastime like shaming incels has.
I'm not the one applying a double-standard. I'm pointing out the double-standard.
I never said "femcels should be shamed, and incels shouldn't be."
I said "femcels don't get shamed the same way incels do."
If the former is how you interpret the latter, that's on you. If I need to explicitly state what I meant, it's closer to this:
"Maybe nobody should be shamed for being lonely and having poor social skills, regardless of gender."
If the issue is misogyny, target the misogyny. Not the inability to get sex, because that is going to do nothing to address the misogyny.
All well said and more articulate than I could pull off, bravo.
I've had to put a lot of thought into this over the years, because usually anything I say about it gets deflected into a strawman and then I just get called a redpilled incel and suddenly people assume that I'm making demands on women's bodies, when all I'm demanding is the same baseline level of respect that literally everyone else deserves.
So I have to navigate the argument very delicately, or else people assume I meant things that I didn't say.
Hmm yes they often are even when they are just complaining that they disdain the situation. I don't know about women though I don't know that many that are bed rotting
If they can look up Yaoi, bed rot, or even have the energy to complain about men, they are underemployed. I can't even think about sex without realizing I could probably pull it off, but my job would get in the way of it, as with anything. The workplace is our god, everything, even family is secondary, because you can't have family without work.
Anyone who has more free time than they spend sleeping is "underemployed" in your opinion?
You sound like a severely sick and twisted individual.
I feel sorry for your family, if you have one.
My family would not be around if I didn't work. They would not have survived. If you can do these things, you are clearly privileged, and could be doing better things with your time.
I will not be sorry, why should someone else make a hissy fit over "boo-hoo no one wants me".
I literally can't even muster the energy to think about that lesser shit, because I'm actually fighting for my life.
While these fuckers parasite around.
It's a perfectly reasonable expectation to have that people should be able to make a decent living while still having enough free time to spend with family and loved ones; or in the absence of a family, doing whatever one chooses to do in their freetime, up to and including commiserating with others about their loneliness.
If you don't agree with that, then you're not a friend of the proletariat. You're licking oligarch boots if you think everyone else should have to work every minute of their waking life to survive just because you do.
If you really have to work that much, and you think the problem is that not everyone else has to work as much as you do, instead of the problem being that anyone should have to work as much as you claim to, then you're a fucking class traitor and a corporate shill.
I don't give a fuck if you think other people are "lesser shit" or that their problems don't matter. And if that's honestly how you feel, then I don't give a fuck about your problems either, because solidarity isn't a one-way street.
You can call it a "boo-hoo hissy fit" every time someone mentions a problem they face that you don't care about, but don't expect any fucking sympathy when you're the one complaining about your problems, as you're doing now.
Feel free to call people parasites for not living like slaves. That's the rhetoric fascists use, so at least you're taking the mask off.
Why should I not be a fascist if I'm judged only by my immutable characteristics, if the world wants me gone, what incentive do I have not to be the same?
I have been holding back, putting up with bullshit, being kind to people who treat me like dirt because I believed in giving people a chanc. Then they go vote in the Jeffrey Epsteins, and try to exterminate those like me.
You get what you fucking deserve!