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Fuck the DNC.
The DNC is an open enemy of the left. They're explicitly paid by the oligarchy to oppose leftist candidates.
The DNC, more than any other organization in existence, is responsible for Trump's presidency. They did more than anyone else to ensure - not once but twice - that he would win. The voters made it very clear that they wanted a leftist, and the DNC effectively said, "Fuck you - you're going to get a pro-corporate, pro-zionist, neoliberal piece of shit and if you don't like it, that's your fucking problem."
And they're already laying the groundwork to do it again in 2028.
Look at how the ‘release’ of the 2024 post mortem report is being handled. You’d think it was the fucking Epstein files the way the chair of the DNC oversaw it, reviewed it, and then instructed his team to release their findings and not the report which is over 200 pages. He claims it’s because we ‘need to look forward and not navel gaze and point fingers, we need to learn lessons from the past and move on’. He says this while withholding the actual report from the public and many high ranking officials in the party at large.
The entire thing feels just as you described, ‘fuck you, we are staying the same because that’s all we’re good at, deal with it.’
If we are stuck with this two party system, the Democratic Party needs a huge overhaul, and that report could be a pretty big light in a fucking huge tunnel.
Yeah - I've commented on the autopsy elsewhere, and... yeah.
It's bludgeoningly obvious that they won't release the autopsy because it places blame on themselves, and quite likely even points to specific things that they fully intend to do again, or even are already doing again.
They know full well that they're betraying the voters and they just dont care.
And they deserve to just be thrown out like the trash they are. Send them to the scrap heap and replace them with an entirely new organization that will at the very least actually try to promote candidates the voters actually want to vote for.
I blame Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Hillary Clinton for not letting Bernie battle Trump in 2016. Trump didn't win that election, Hillary lost it.
Bernie would have shone a light on their corruption, and they can't have that.
Bernie was an independent. He was never going to be the democrats candidate. I understand the want and I voted for him. But they were never going to let that happen.
Yes.
Aside from Trump himself, I would go so far as to say that the one single person in the entire world who bears more responsibility for Trump's presidency than anyone else is Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
The voters clearly expressed their preference for Sanders and Sanders easily led both Clinton and Trump in polling, and then the DNC effectively fraudulently nominated Clinton anyway (with their technically valid but obviously corrupt defense being that they weren't required to accept the voters' preference).
They set the stage for Trump and the oligarchs to just walk right in, and then tried to blame everybody but themselves when they walked right in.
Nailed it. The Republicans tried to throw the election in 2016, and the DNC was all like "Hold my beer, let me show you how it's done".
Yes in 2016 the RNC wanted Jeb. They tried to stop Trump taking over their party.
I recall no indications that the RNC preferred Jeb. In fact, after 4 mediocre years with George HW, and the 8 disastrous years in which the negligence, incompetence, and corruption of the George W Bush Administration was responsible for the avoidable deaths of well over 10,000 American citizens, countless foreign nationals, and the worst economic downfall since the Great Depression, I don't remember ANYONE looking forward to another Bush administration.
Even though he was the one Bush who wasn't a self serving dipshit, and probably would have made a decent president (he had done a great job as governor of Florida) his political viability on the National stage was destroyed after his father's, and especially his brother's, failures as president. I don't recall him winning a single primary race, or even finishing in the top 3.
They had plenty of candidates that year, but none of them could get any traction because the media only had eyes for the trainwreck that is Donald Trump, and combined with Russian propaganda and manipulation of social media, he was kept at the forefront at all times. In America, especially back then, just being familiar is good enough to be politically viable, even if it's for all the wrong reasons.
What happened, the alternate reality they created to seize absolute power was itself seized by the now president that could talk shit better than they could. It was inevitable. He seized control of the party in the process of overthrowing the Republic. He mucked it up too, yet because the Democrats are so weak and worthless he won anyway. Or less charitably because the Democrats are the controlled opposition which is the truth.
I agree with your take, but I had insider knowledge I didn’t disclose. They were trying for Jeb in 2015
Well, maybe they should have spoken up. I know they had issues with running another Bush, but Hillary was carrying similar baggage, and they would have cancelled each other out, for the most part. How could they possibly think Trump would be better?
Yeah, I'm gonna hard NOPE right out of that assertion. The republicans are not virgins at a debutante's ball, they've been working directly toward this goal for at least forty years, and the ones that are up there now, including the house speaker and corrupt SCOTUS, are doing everything in their power to keep him there, marching in lockstep as they go.
Where is your broad censure for them, the ones actively planning and carrying out Project 2025, the ones robbing the country blind, the ones doing everything they can right now to ensure we lose our democracy? Because it's sure as fuck nowhere in your comment.
This is true, and by far not the DNC's only crime.
But when you give the actual perps a complete, total, 100% pass in favor of attacking the only people still trying to stop them (even though some of them are only vaguely gesturing in that direction, to be sure) you're batting for the wrong team.
That said, I'll never vote for a non-progressive over a progressive again as long as I live. If by that time I still have a vote that matters, of course.
The DNC's role in the rightward push is obviously less straightforward than the RNC's push, but it's at least as important. The DNC's job is to ensure that Republicans retain all of their wins moving right while Democrats make none that move left.
The URL made me skeptical, but that was an excellent read - thanks for sharing.
It was originally posted on someone's blog a long time ago and has since been reposted elsewhere.
Man...
The craziest part is the ~400 some people that get to vote when a Dem doesn't win agreed with you a year ago when they voted for someone that wasn't a neoliberal.
Like, if it was 15 months ago, you'd be 100% correct.
The main problem, is you think "the DNC" is a monolith, and not just the chair getting a four year term to do anything they want.
Obama ignored the DNC because they worked with Hillary in the primary and went bankrupt.
So neoliberals kept going into 2016, rigged it against Bernie, and when Hillary lost and all the money had been siphoned off to the first Victory Fund, they had no choice to pick a neoliberal in 2017 to have access to the VF or the party would have died. Maybe it should have a decade ago, but it didn't.
That chair rigged it for Biden, and Biden put another neoliberal in charge of the DNC, and in return Kamala got the VF and the nomination with no primary.
Which takes us to 2025, and the ~400 voting members got a chance again.
And they picked the guy who ran Minnesota for a decade and has an incredibly strong track record anyone can easily look up.
We fucking won...
We got the party back.
The literal.only way we can lose it is if people check out of the Dem presidential and a neoliberal like Newsome gets the nomination and wins the general, that hands the keys of the party back and neoliberals will never let them go again.
No matter what happens, in the next Dem presidential primary vote for whoever is furtherest left, if nothing else to spite what you think the DNC still is.
Anything else and you might fuck us all
Edit:
I didn't mention what happened with the Victory Fund, after Kamala the DNC got the keys to it.
For the last year we've had the largest reinvesture of funds from the DNC to state parties...
All that money back to states that need it to win these races, instead of sitting in a bank account until it's time to throw another meaningless dinner with George Clooney.
We don't want a large powerful national organization... Like, we want bottom-up power structure and that's what we're going back to...
The stuff people want to happen is happening, it's been happening.
They just still suck at messaging, partly because they don't think the party should be driving the bus.
I don't know, I've heard that, that this is a new DNC, but I'm still waiting for more proof. I just remember David Hogg getting into the DNC last year, and declaring that he was going to overhaul it, and they kicked him right out.
Is this "new" DNC before or after they proved where they stand about a supporting a REAL gun control advocate?
If you have faith in DNC chair Ken Martin then I've got a bridge to sell you.
He's the guy who promised to realease the autopsy of the 2024 election, and is now refusing to release it. You really think he's going to reform the DNC?
Yeah, but if you were here 6 months ago, Lemmy had pitchforks out for this guy.