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I voted Harris who is not a fascist so your argument breaks down there.
How you fucking voted is irrelevant.
You advocated relentless to keep Harris where she was policy wise when EVERYBODY KNEW she would lose the election sticking with those polices. You objectively advocated that the Democrats stick to the path which everyone with eyes knew would lead to them losing the election.
👏 You 👏 advocated 👏 for 👏 fascism 👏.
👏 You 👏 are 👏 supporter 👏 of 👏 fascism 👏.
Would you believe me if I said he just tried to argue that being Zionist is what Jews need to do?
What a shocker that someone who thinks that Israel is doing things fine also thinks Harris was a good choice. She would have agreed to fight Iran, but she's somehow better
Somehow .world is pure of heart and AN and DB0 are bad instances for being anti-fascist.
I'd be shocked by anything other than the most "this will surely lose to fascism" take from a fascist like SMCF. However I've evolved on what I think about their project and I think in someways we misunderstand them. I know its a polarizing pejorative, but there truly is no better descriptor for them other than Blue MAGA. And the reason for this, is something that they themselves don't even truly understand. Their goal isn't to stop fascism or even to enact some political project. I genuinely don't believe they have any internal politics. SMCF, like red fascists, their project is a cultural project. They don't have political goals for the Democratic, they have cultural goals, specifically, that the appeasement of their identity stays as the central premise of the Democratic party. And this is identical to Red MAGA; they really don't have political goals either, they have social, cultural goals.
This is why SMCF is a fascist but can't understand why, because they don't dis-aggregate the fact that they demand cultural hegemony over the Democratic party (and, lets be real, they did win, and have continued to win that fight; Blue MAGA control the democratic party). And so even though SMFC maybe "lost" the election, they lost in a way that they'll never be impacted, because their identity continues to be the protected class within Democratic party politics. They maybe lost the election, but they maintained control of the manner in which the Democratic party is allowed to have conversations: its still a party of white supremacy; its still a party where white identity and white culture is centered. We have to recognize that SMFC is fighting a different fight than we are because they weren't trying to get or prevent some politics from happening; they were trying to maintain cultural control over the DNC. And they won. They beat us because we misunderstood the game and what their goals were. And because they won and maintained control over the culture of the DNC, the DNC lost to fascism.
I wrote more on this concept here: https://lemmy.world/comment/23454844
American liberals are just diet fascists. It's why they support Biden keeping Mexicans in cages quietly. It's why they support Harris wanting stronger military and borders. It's why they like it when Biden broke rules to aid genocide.
[Citation needed.]
I relentlessly kept Harris where she was policy wise for all three months of her campaign?
We've done this like 40 time already. Do you really need me to remind you of the things you say and advocate for? A fingernail scratch into the veneer of being a shitposter reveals a account which was deeply committed to the project of keeping Democrats aligned with Israel and the genocide in Gaza, knowing full well that it would lead to them losing. You don't get a hall pass because of how you voted.
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds?
Right?
You can use your little AI tool and check my post history here and on .world and you'll be I'm very vocal against all genocides including Gaza and Ukraine.
Well lets make it easy. Show me you advocating that Harris or Biden needed to change their policy on Israel or Gaza, or they would lose the election.
Any time from '23 to '24 will do. I'll wait.
All good I knew you couldn't back up the things you were saying with anything based in reality.
My history is public so you can look through it if you'd like though.
Yeah but I don't need to because you've been doing it the whole time. You are even doing it in this thread. And as I've said before, we've done this half a hundred times and every time I stack the evidence up and you just dismiss it.
So instead of the negative case, you are now responsible for proving the positive case. You want to make the case that you advocated against Harris' or Biden's stance on genocide: Put up or shut up.
I'm not making the claim so I can't be bothered.
Maybe eugene will jump in here to help you out.
You made the claim to be anti-genocide and that you've advocated against genocide. I'm asking you to back that up for the time period '23 to '24, where that kind of advocacy had the chance of making a political difference.
I think you can't be arsed for the same reason I won't do it yet again: because you and I both know that it doesn't exist.
It doesn't impact him, so why would he ever advocate for it?
Love their examples for you is just them being indifferent or calling out other ones.
Of course we should all be listening to
https://lemmy.world/comment/12045513
https://lemmy.world/comment/4875651
https://lemmy.world/comment/12345915
Three examples.
The ask was:
Harris and Bidens stance on Israel led directly to them losing the election. You worked your fucking ass off to keep them in support of that genocide, and unless you can show otherwise, which, I don't think you can, we have to continue on the assumption that you are a pro-genocide fascist.
Look at those goalposts move!
Every single example there was anti genocide in that time period.
Its the literal fucking thread were in dude. We're literally talking about the impacts you had on the election. Not like, catholic fucking genocide or some other random shit.
Are you okay with those genocides?
Well I'm not fucking funding those other genocides as a fucking taxpayer, am I? So its a pretty fucking irrelevant what-about-ism you are trying to play.
Likewise, there was there an entire fucking movement, making it impeccably clear, that they were not OK with how the president was handling the matter. They litterally told the administration they would lose, in fucking December, January and February, that they didn't have the support of the voters on this issue.
Democrats, and shit-bird genocide apologists like you decided not to listen, and that you could defy the basic fucking physics of how elections work and just force support for a candidate who didn't have the support of the base, instead of working your rhetoric to change the candidate.
We're all suffering the consequences of the actions you chose.
So you think genocides are okay if you’re not paying for them?
I really, I just really appreciate how much of your whole ass you are constantly willing to let hang out there.
I'm, I just, I want to say thanks for doing what you do, because I'll never have to like, go do research to demonstrate to people what a vile, cynical, absolute piece of filth you actually are. I'll just be able to link them to this thread.
Its like I said before. You didn't give a fuck about stopping fascism. You've never given a fuck about stopping fascism. Its all about cultural control for you. You enjoy the privileged positions of having the DNC cater to your identity and your understanding of politics, and you'll accept a bit of fascism for the rest of us so long as that power within the party goes unchallenged.
Thank you, just, so much for giving me a worked example of why we can consistently and correctly call you a fascist, and a genocidal apologist. I truly appreciate your help in this matter.
Being consistently anti-genocide makes me a genocide apologist?
Like I said I don’t even support the ones I don’t pay for I think they’re all bad.
You aren't though. You spent almost 2 years defending the administrations support for the genocide in Gaza, apologizing for it, and blaming voters for not wanting to support genocide while you were OK with it to protect your privileged status.
And he literally just yesterday said that he's pro-isreal and other gross things
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/67877780/25756975
But he's somehow anti-genocide, when he considers genocide a matter of opinion!
Piece of fucking filth he is.
I linked multiple examples showing how I am and was consistently against genocides though.
You literally just admitted that the only ones you’re against are the ones you have to pay for as a taxpayer.
You didn't provide the citation requested. People can read the thread. They know your lying because they have eyes.
That’s why I didn’t want provide a source I knew you would move the goalposts right after and it would never be good enough and you’d always be asking for a better source.
It’s called sea lioning.
That's rich from you
I must have really got under your skin for some reason for you to just follow me around this site like a lost puppy.
Hopefully you can accept my apology if I did.
Nope, just able to read usernames on threads. Sorry you're too stupid.
Go join the IDF since you support them so much.
One day all these personal attacks are going to get you a time out you know.
Boo hoo.
Until next time James Croll, William Buckley, Eugene Debs or whatever character I’m currently talking to.
You're not even making sense anymore, go to bed.
No one is going to stumble on a sixty comment deep thread so I can safely say it’s a very obvious pattern and I do enjoy your work.
Oh hi there 😅
But SMCF said no one could! How dare you prove them wrong.
Oh no you caught me.
I didn't move the goal posts. You literally just have to read the fucking thread. Like, try. Go read the thread. We're talking very specifically about one genocide, one time period, one race, and one specific act of advocacy you need to demonstrate to make any kind of an argument you aren't just a straight up fascist. Like just read the thread, top to bottom. Its right fucking there.
But honestly, and you know this and I know this, it doesn't fucking matter. You've lost. And you know you lost. 2 years ago I was getting ratio'd to oblivion for expressing the same points I'm making here. You were fine with genocide when it was Harris and Biden doing it, and your ABWD sentiment ruled the party in '23 and '24. But the times have changed. People understand and bear witness to the hollowness your politics have lead to. The utter cuckolding towards fascism you represent.
You handed the country to fascism with your support of the pro-genocide candidate, instead of making the demand that the candidate change their position. This was the citation requested, any time, between '23 and '24.
Reading things is so hard for him, give him some slack! He only supports mass murder when his side does it.
Liberals, against all wars but the current war. Scum like him needs to be sent to the wars they wish to allow, maybe then they'll get shell shocked into reality and have a conscious again.
This is your exact comment and I provided that exactly.
I have not lost in this conversation and it’ll remain up proudly for everyone who cares to see to see it.