this post was submitted on 27 Apr 2026
1224 points (98.6% liked)

Technology

84277 readers
3161 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro 282 points 4 days ago (11 children)

This isn't an AI story, it's a "completely fucking idiotic sysadmins exist" story.

Treat an AI like the idiot intern without any references you just hired. Gave the idiot intern permission to delete your production database? That's entirely on you, zero sympathy. (Actually, give any developer that power? You get what you deserve.)

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 129 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It could be a moronic sysadmin, it could just as easily be a moronic exec pushing staff to implement this crap right now and damn the consequences.

[–] portifornia@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

⤴️ #MyLastJob

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 80 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean that's kinda the whole point.

Companies are looking at AI to replace people. Either it's ready or it's not.

If you need to treat it like it's an intern, then it's not worth the expense. Anyone hiring interns to be productive doesn't understand why you hire an intern.

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As if a 90$/month intern wasn't a good deal lol

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't hire interns for productivity. If you're intern program is any good it's a time/resource sink. However, it's a good recruiting pipeline and provides young people an opportunity to get real world experience.

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 1 points 2 days ago

You don’t hire interns for productivity

Because it's unethical. I've been in business for 10+ years but i never hired an intern because i don't find it fair to make someone work for less than minimum wage, and i don't have the structure required to really teach them anything. I have bad fundamentals and only ever learnt by doing, so having an intern while it may help me wouldn't really help them and that's not a deal i'm willing to make. Probably why i'm not super successful lol

That being said, i don't see any problem with making a GPU cry somewhere in California for my menial tasks. And it's tremendously effective too, for a hundred bucks a month i get a lot of shit done that would take me ages. I don't give it access to anything critical so it can't fuck my shit up and i come out on top as long as the tokens are subsidized by dumb VC money.

[–] moustachio@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

“Treat an AI like an idiot intern without any references you just hired.”

Instead of this, treat AI like some dude off the street who you didn’t hire and leave it out of your life. It’s shitty, it’s wasteful, and it’s subsidized by everyone to get a few tech bros rich.

Like seriously, it’s just theft of people’s work it “trained on”, powered by energy companies that charge us more to power it, at the cost of poisoning our water supplies, to ultimately try and steal our salaries one day.

It’s absolutely parasitic software at every level.

[–] hoch@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Nah, I think I'm going to keep using it

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Hah, you just wrote a punchline similar to a presentation I've been giving at conferences.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Treat an AI like the idiot intern without any references you just hired.

My company is in the process of pivoting hard to Claude after 50yrs of doing virtually everything themselves and rolling their own versions of already-existing software, and this is almost verbatim how I've described to others what it feels like to use it.

It feels like cajoling an intern to understand a job for which they have some average skill but zero motivation, and they only want to do the bare minimum, so you spend all the time you could be doing your job holding their hand through basic tasks.

It's fucking annoying.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago

Treat an AI like the idiot intern without any references you just hired. Gave the idiot intern permission to delete your production database? That’s entirely on you

We've officially veered into a timeline where the standard for every tech employee's level of competence is on par with the guy who pushed through that update to CrowdStrike lol

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I was once the intern who did relatively stupid things with one very big consequence.

My biggest fuckup was unplugging a 10base2 (edit: I originally wrote 10-base-T) coax wire from the loop so I could plug in a newly built computer. Everyone at the time (including me) knew that an unterminated 10-base-T network would crash Win 3.11, so the accepted process was to tell the entire network you were about to disconnect a cable so they could save their work and be ready to drop to DOS. I spaced that step in my haste to test a newly built computer and ruined a day's worth of work by the sales guy.

Ultimately, I was the one who fucked up and did know better. That's AI. However, it only had consequences because Win 3.11 networking code was fucking awful and because the sales guy didn't save his work frequently. If the same person in this story had asked Claude whether it was a good idea to have the backup and production databases on the same volume, the AI would have said No. If the person had asked Claude whether it was a good idea to delete a database without any confirmation dialogue, the AI would have said No. AI did it anyway. That's what makes this an AI story.

Was their database environment stupid? Yes. Did the sysadmin fuck up by not treating AI like an intern? Yes. Did the AI do something it knew it shouldn't do? Also yes. This is both an AI story and stupid sysadmin story.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I witnessed a sysadmin, on a production database, type a SQL DELETE FROM query, which was being read to him over a call.

He ran the command before writing the WHERE clause.

Luckily, they had backups.

"OOPS!? What do you mean "oops"?" was a meme around the office for years.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

give any developer that power?

Fun fact: giving developers access to production deployments violates FedRAMP and like half a dozen other compliance regimes SOC2/IRAP/ISMAP/G-Cloud/BSI C5/...

[–] eodur@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But it doesn't mean it isn't incredibly common. Especially with "DevOps" where the developers are pushed to handle literally every aspect.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

IMO DevOps was always a stupid idea. Impedance mismatch.

Developers who are really good at designing complex enterprise-level shit need days-to-weeks of uninterrupted time to think and experiment. Please, skip the daily stand-up until you've figured out how to fix

Coders who are good at fixing bugs or adding a new menu item need a few hours or a day uninterrupted. Daily stand-up, should have closed yesterday's ticket or have hit a real roadblock with it.

Ops IT people are fixing like 4 fires at the literal same time, they are lucky to get minutes of uninterrupted thinking time. It's about managing rate of tickets per day, and in contrast going full CAPA when there's a significant outage.

Just... totally different workflows, personalities, and management

[–] eodur@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I totally agree. I think it stems from Ops people that are angry at developers for building bad software. Theoretically making devs responsible for their deployments would make them care more about the quality, but really it just splits their focus and now they make bad software and provide poor ops.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

Agreed about salty ops people. That said it is important even for fancy-schamcy Architect-level engineers to be assigned real annoying bugs in the codebase they helped to shape

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago
[–] GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Treat an AI like the idiot intern without any references you just hired.

An extremely enthusiastic intern that, if presented with a question/problem/prompt they don't know the solution for will just overconfidently pull something out of their ass and run with it.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Problem is execs and stupid software devs wanna give these things full reign on systems because of “performance gainz “

It’s a collective stupidity that’s impossible to break because it’s hooked into the highest decision makers.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

These things are bought specifically because they are trying to replace the sysadmins... Along with everyone else.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Any business who uses AI in that manner will fail like all of the dot com companies who went all-in on the Internet when it first achieved a bit of popularity.

AI is, at best, a tool that professionals may be able to use in some situations. Any company dumb enough to believe the hype generated by the chatbot companies is probably making other, similarly dumb, decisions in other areas.

Things like giving way too much access to a worker, not having a tested disaster recovery plan, and not having anyone who understands the technologies that their business depends on.

This company was heading towards disaster due to poor decision making, it just happened to be AI related but it could have also been an undetected cyberattack, 0-day exploits pushed to the client app, destructive ex-employee, etc.

This is a cautionary tale about bad management