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I respectfully disagree. I am currently in a rewatch, and there are two major issues I now have with SG1 (and don't ask me why it didn't bother/I didn't notice before): how much civil oversight over the military is antagonized and how often events or explanations are recapped in dialogue.
In Atlantis, Weir and Woolsey are really respectable civil leaders with authority over the expedition's military and the relationship between military and civil personnel is much more balanced (plus every now and then it leads to interesting conflict).
Also, this frequent summaries and retelling is often a point of critique for more modern shows ("modern shows get made for second screens"). That happens much less in Atlantis.
I feel like its not so much civilian-oversight that's antagonized but greedy politicians. where Weir is not a politician- she's a scientist and was in charge of the scientific expedition which the military (SGC) was tasked with protecting.
Keep in mind that Woolsey was first introduced as Kinsey's lackey coming in to sabotage the stargate program. His character arc is... wonderful; and he goes from Woolsey-the-antagonist to Woolsey-the-ally (and eventual leader of Atlantis). for his part, Kinsey was subordinate to the Trust (and the oligarchs that formed the Committee/NID before it.)
Which, I do feel like American politicians are... how shall we say... like that.
Partly, yes. But for the most part, the ones in favour of civilian oversight were only greedy politicians, and that was used to frame the whole idea. Also the pure thought of civilian oversight was ridiculed by the protagonists without it being contextualized as a point of debate or something. Remember, there was a whole episode about why the US Air Force was best to control the Stargate program instead of an international comittee.
No, Weir was a diplomat, peace activist and expert on international politics, not a scientist. Also, her appearance in SG1 marked a slight change in the show's characterization of civil oversight.
Kinsey is one of my biggest points in this issue. For several seasons, he was the only or leading figure arguing for civil oversight, and when you let only one or a most prominent character represent an idea that character is how the show frames that idea.
I'm also in the middle of a watch through, started sg1 season 10 this week. (i have enjoyed your crossover memes).
Atlantis is set after all of the civilian/military conflicts were hammered out back on earth. The IOA is more stable/reasonable than when the stargate was a US-Russian secret.
after the disclosure episode yea, it stabilized and goauld based threats became less threatening.