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[–] officermike@lemmy.world 70 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

For what it's worth, my LG washer has sent 14.3 MB in the past MONTH, but my Unifi router has misidentified my Nvidia Shield TV as another LG washer. The Shield has downloaded 11.6 GB in the past month, mostly from YouTube. While I don't doubt it's possible for a washer to send/receive that much data if it's compromised and part of a botnet, I'd also question whether the device in question is actually an LG laundry appliance.

[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 41 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

why do you even need to have your washer connected to the internet at all?

[–] kevin2107@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I have my air fryer connected to the internet

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 34 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Knowing when the washer is done with a polite buzz on my wrist is way better than not hearing a beeper from 3 rooms away. It also reports your energy and water usage so you can learn about where you use resources.

There’s a lot to be gained from smart appliances, it’s just that our current system makes the manufacturers adversarial to the users unfortunately.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I just set a timer. As for knowing how much energy it uses: How much can you change once you know? You only get a few options on the machine to make any difference. Knowing this stuff is useful before you buy it, not after.

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

because those people don't think, they do what they are told by companies. there is ZERO logical reason to have the thing connected to the internet.

it won't add soap..it won't add clothes..it won't remove clothes...

there is nothing that machine can do better while connected to the internet vs offline...if there is, then it's a limitation/problem specifically designed to make the product worse, in order to manipulate people to sign up for stupid crap.

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If you really don't think there's a legitimate reason someone might want their washer connected to the Internet, you need to get out more.

Have you considered that a washer might be in the basement? And the person might be 2 floors away where they can't hear it? And they might appreciate being able to get a notification when it is complete to remind them to move it to the dryer?

Open your mind a little more.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Have you considered that you could learn how long it takes to do a cycle and then set a timer on your phone?

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

That's more effort per wash instead of being something that only needs setting up one and then will work forever. Also, it's common for post-90s appliances to include sensors and vary the cycle time based on how dirty the water gets. Except for the data privacy and security concerns, which are mainly because it's proprietary software rather than inherent in Internet-connected devices, there's no advantage to using your phone timer over getting a notification.

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

lol... more effort to set an alarm ve goes through the hassles of dealing with companies bullshit? yeah.. ok, totally more effort. I don't buy that for one second.. it's exhausting dealing with crappy software and companies that purposely tamper with their own products for profits

[–] DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It won't work forever. It'll stop working once they stop supporting the app or shut off the servers.

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Again, that's specific to it being proprietary software. I've got some devices in my home that are connected to the local network (but not the internet), and have configured Home Assistant (which I've got running on an old desktop PC) to send a notification to my phone when it detects that those devices report that they're finished with what they do. That'll keep working until I turn off the Home Assistant server or replace the devices.

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Whether or not I can isn't relevant to whether I want to or not. My point is that you act like you can't conceive of why someone would want it that way. It's an absolutely narrow minded stance.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't mind being able to start my washer remotely - I want it to run while I'm not home because it's noisy, but I don't want the wet laundry to sit all day like it would if I started it and then went to work.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Doesn't practically every one have a delayed start option?

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago

You think I can remember to set that?! Well look at you, miss functional adult!

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Or start it right before you leave. I swear, people in this thread are bending over backwards to try and justify having to connect appliances to the internet. It’s wild.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 0 points 6 hours ago

That's having wet laundry sit for most of the day, which the person above already said they didn't want to do.

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 4 points 18 hours ago

I mean, in a vacuum, a smart washer is a nice idea which is actually useful. Set the time to start the washer to 430 so it finishes when you get home. That's a good and useful improvement.

In practice however, gestures wildly there's the obvious data collection both of your laundry habits and anything the app on your phone can reach.

I'm not opposed to smart tech, but it has to actually benefit to product. A smart TV is a better TV (again, the data collection BS, but I am ignoring that for the moment). It can launch Netflix or Hulu or whatever, and you can watch from the comfort of your couch without another device. It is doing TV better than a non smart TV.

Also, I would love it if there was a good FOSS TvOS.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if usage of a phone app for controling and such impacts data use. If the app connects to an LG server before processing the task or notification, maybe its also grabbing a bunch of data from the phone as well?

[–] DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What kind of permissions does the app ask for? That'll tell ya right there.

[–] officermike@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

The only permission I have enabled for LG ThinQ is notifications. I also have a Home Assistant integration that has access to my LG washer/dryer

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 points 18 hours ago

Why do you have it hooked up to the Internet?