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Yes. As with all social injustice and corruption, we are ethically obligated to draw attention to it every time. Allowing corporate theft against consumers to be quietly accepted because you are more annoyed by the backlash than rampant corporate theft makes you an accomplice.
Don’t be an accomplice.
I refuse to buy into the lie that EVERY minor inconvenience is an assault on social justice. That kind of absolutism is designed to waste social energy in a world where far more visible and important harms are frequent. Ending the feeding of gambling addictions, addressing memory hoarding, and encouraging fresh IPs are all to me far more important issues.
You need to accept there’s a large population of people in this community that have not, and will not, be convinced by the Denuvo arguments. I even tried to engage others on the subject to dissect their views and potentially further the discussion, and all it got was multiple paragraphs about what they were NOT going to say, and refused to talk about. The debate is over, and not by my choice. It is literally just annoying now.
There is one thing you are right about. If you think that corporations should be allowed the ability to deprive their customers of their purchases, then you are complicit and we have nothing else to discuss.
But we haven't even started yet. Why aren't you expanding your maximalist position to oppose capitalism? After all you're the one who said you're obligated to draw attention to all social injustice and corruption every time. Is capitalism not unjust? Is it not corrupt? You'd think someone who is so absolute in their ethics, to the point of accusing their otherwise allies of being an accomplice or complicit for not being 100% in opposition to the injustice, they'd have no problem taking a similar stand against capitalism. Surely someone like that, who believes they're obligated to draw attention to the injustice every single time, would let their coworkers know with every single paycheck that some of their wage is being stolen. So why did you ignore my comment the first time around?
My guess is that you understand how weird it would be if you constantly told your coworkers they're getting ripped off by the system. Not just weird, but I'm pretty sure your coworkers would find it pretty annoying even if they agreed on principle. But for whatever reason you think such behavior is not only acceptable online but anyone not doing that is essentially the enemy. Somehow that's not weird? That's not annoying everyone else? I personally don't think so. Just like it would be weird and annoying IRL it's weird and annoying online. And for clarification, calling Denuvo bad isn't weird, constantly going around and calling it bad is weird. There's a time and a place for that discussion but that time and place isn't under every thread of a game that has Denuvo.
And before you duck again from this conversation I'll remind you that you're the on who started this. I preemptively said I don't care about your defense of this little circejerk you're doing and you still felt you're important enough to let me know how I'm an accomplice to a supposed corporate theft. So for your own sake don't be a bitch and stand your ground. Otherwise whatever credibility you have left goes straight out the window because you're all bark and no bite. Come on, explain why you'd take such an absolutist stand against Denuvo but not do the same thing when it comes to opposing capitalism. Why aren't you constantly annoying your coworkers about how their wage is being stolen?
Before typing up that wall of false equivalence, you should have checked my comment history, comrade.
And once again, complaining about people trying to stop others from falling for the thieving tricks of late stage capitalism makes you an accomplice. If you’re not a neofeudal capitalist bootlicker and really do think that capitalism is unjust, then don’t complain when others are trying to educate the masses about the ways they can opt out, fight back, and make a difference.
DRM is theft. It infects games, cars, farm equipment, dishwashers, refrigerators, televisions, and every aspect of our lives. We will own nothing and be bled dry for it. That’s not a prediction, we’re already there. Stop defending it. Stop trying to silence opposition. Either own your opposition or own your bootlicking. You can’t have it both ways.
I'm sorry but being "a comrade" is not an excuse to be weird and annoying so I reject your dismissal of my wall of text. I'm already doubting your reading comprehension, don't prove it further by not addressing the very simple questions I'm asking.
As for the rest of your comment, if you read what I've written you'd know I've already addressed half of what you've written and I'm aware and don't disagree with the other half that you've written. Maybe you think it makes you seem smart but to me it just reeks of not listening to anything the other person says.
I'm sure your coworkers really appreciate you telling them on every single payday that the capital owners are stealing their money. You wouldn't want to be an accomplice to capitalism now would you.