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Might still be considered “southern Ontario”, but I’m talking 3 hours north of Toronto.

Every time I go up skiing and the weather seems horrid, I’m doing something like 40-60 in an 80 or 90 because my 3pms all seasons make it feel dicey. Yet, I get passed all the time by people going around the speed limit.

What kind of tires you guys running?

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[–] mundane@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My uncle who worked with tires all his life used to say that there is no such thing as an all season tire, regardless of what the markings say.

All seasons are horrible in the winter. It's impossible to create a rubber that has the right stiffness in both freezing temperatures and the summer heat. If you live in a place that gets sub freezing temperatures, you need tires that don't get rock hard in the cold. Where I live, everyone keeps two sets of wheels and switches them with the seasons.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Clarification: Winter rated tires.

There are all-seasons (the Nokian Haakapalitta tires I've mentioned) that are incredible in the winter (actually best tire I've ever driven in bad conditions, deep snow and winter-long ice).

But to your point, while you can run them in dry conditions, they will wear much faster than typical all-season tires due to the softer compound.

There's no other all-season tire I've used that actually works in snow or ice, let alone as well as Haakapaliitas.

But if you have a long winter, I'd get a set of their dedicated winter tires and switch seasonally as you said.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What would you recommend? In milder areas of Canada I’ve been to, all season M+S or 3PMS are considered winter tires.

(Is it legal to run studs in ON?)

[–] mundane@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Tires with the Alpine Symbol, 3PMSF, are the only tires that are allowed in Sweden on winter roads.

I don't know enough to recommend tires to someone else.