At the end of the day, reality is a social construct, and some people have identities that break these social rules. Given a choice between upholding a hierarchy that has been thoroughly taken over by billionaires, or respecting people's identities, I respect identities. Even if they're rapists who abused My ex-wife. That's how strongly I believe in My principles.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I dated someone who was that sort of detached from reality once, and after trying to humour them I realised that they were just a stupid narcisit ... so unless this Etherian Princess you know has demonstrable powers, is in charge of a large region of land, and is actually from Etheria, no I wouldn't respect their identity.

But even if I did, I wouldn't confuse how they identified with a work of fiction that is unrelated to their existence.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Again, I despise that monster with every fiber of My being. And yet there is no fiber of My being that thinks bigotry is an acceptable way to retaliate. So I'm not going to use ableist slurs on the princess, nor will I deny the princess's identity.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So ... you believe that they have a disability which causes them to identify that way?

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

...yes?

And in anticipation of what I'm worried you're going to say next, I'll say that gender dysphoria is a mental disorder too, it doesn't make trans people invalid. Personality disorders don't make otherkin invalid.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So, you're a bigot who tries to avoid using bigoted phrasing for some reason

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What, because I agree with you about the NPD?

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say that their identity meant they had a disability, that was you.

I don't consider mental health problems to be a disability, and I don't consider trans people to have mental health problems because of their identity.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You used an ableist slur on your friend. You called them a n*rcissist. You implied that being fictionkin is a result of narcissism.

Personality disorders can influence the manner in which kintypes present themselves, as I well know, for I am an otherkin with NPD. I disagree with you that being fictionkin is a result of narcissism, but I agree that in this particular case, the princess's NPD has influenced the kind of kintype.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That isn't what I said or tried to imply, and now I understand why you managed to take entirely the wrong messages from She-Ra

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Well yes, you said narcisit, but I figured you misspellled the slur. What were you trying to say?

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Why do you think that narcisicist is a slur, and not a descriptor?

I was describing a person who I knew, as an example of why I was not going to respect the self-description of people who have a poor relationship with reality.

I also said they were stupid. Which there were. Is that also a slur?

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you think that narcisicist is a slur, and not a descriptor?

I was describing a person who I knew, as an example of why I was not going to respect the self-description of people who have a poor relationship with reality.

I also said they were stupid. Which there were. Is that also a slur?

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago) (1 children)

The word n*rcissist is a shortened form of a disability, turned into a personal label. It's like r*tard or sp*rg.

Regardless of authorial intent, the use of that derogatory label is inseparable from ableism because using the slur emboldens and covers for ableists. At best it's a dogwhistle.

I assumed you meant it in relation to the disability because you brought up the idea of an identity being caused by a disability.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 19 minutes ago (1 children)

Except that narcissism isn't a disability

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

associated with significant functional impairment and psychosocial disability.[1]

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 minutes ago

And yet narcissists make up a large proportion of the most "wealthy and successful" segments of modern society ... ergo, not a disability.