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Tankies aren't leftists in reality.
Maybe left of Nazis, but they aren't leftists.
The political left and authoritarianism are inherently contradictory.
Its the political right that embraces authoritarianism. Hence why we call them "Red Fascists"
The political left and authoritarianism are not contradictory. Leftists are not always Libertarians, and many of them will and do trade freedom for safety regularly.
For safety, or for power.
Uh, your graph is missing power levels for Lenin and Stalin.
over 9000
Based
Whatt your graph shows is only a reduction in percentage. The top 10% still amount to around 25% of the wealth - which is wild considering that companies that were privatly owned didn't exist. So what equity positions are we talking about?
The political compass isn't an objective model
Found the tankie.
The nazis' economy was a shell game of debt, and they were overextended militarily. Their regime would have fallen even if they had won the war. Secondly, the USSR at first joined forces with the nazis until they were betrayed by them, and after the soviets joined the allies, they received massive aid under the lend-lease act. And even with the aid, they still had to rely on human-wave tactics.
Now that is quite a fun game of gymnastics, but just to pick one out and ohrase it differently.
The Soviets invaded Poland to weaks late according to the treaty with Germany, because they were held back in Belarus, the Baltics and Ukraine, but gladly took the promised lands.
Yeah right. However you spin this the USSR was by no means an innocent country, nor were they anti-imperialist. They might have seen themselves that way. But that's like me saying I am dilligent and disciplined, lying to oneself is what we do best.
a fascist state fought a war against a competing fascist state. simply being on the side opposing Nazi Germany doesn't magically make your state a perfect divine utopia
none of that precludes fascism
just saying it doesn't make it true
everything inside the state. nothing outside the state. nothing against the state.
that's what fascism is. none of what you described precludes fascism
I got my definition from Mussolini. where is your from?
the so-called private sector depends entirely on the state to enforce private property claims. the state issues corporate charters. the state "regulates" these corporations to ensure they benefit the state.
eco's 14 characteristics are more like symptoms to diagnose fascism. the fascist ideology doesn't require any of them except point 4 and, to a degree, point 13. it just so happens that fascist regimes will often display the other characteristics. they are not inherent to the ideology.
tell em what they won!
i know, right!
i'd say that it becomes an empty accusation in the modern context, yea. like, duh. the modern state is fascist. but it's not useless to understand the characteristics of the systems that oppress us.
I didn't say anything about whether the ussr was socialist. I said the evidence you gave doesn't preclude the ussr from being fascist
right. and while the ussr may have been socialist (i honestly don't want to take a position on that), the features of the society that you cited are not explicitly socialist. you mostly cited the existence of institutions within the state and some statistics about the standard of living. those could appear in a fascist society, as well.
i'm not saying it's a common feature in fascist societies. i'm saying nothing about the explicit ideology precludes it.
i'm sorry, i'm not going to engage with parenti at all.