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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Bad actors submitting garbage code aren't going to read the documentation anyway, so the kernel should focus on holding human developers accountable rather than trying to police the software they run on their local machines.

"Guns don't kill people. People kill people"

Torvalds and the maintainers are acknowledging reality: developers are going to use AI tools to code faster, and trying to ban them is like trying to ban a specific brand of keyboard.

The author should elaborate on how exactly AI is like "a specific brand of keyboard". Last I checked a keyboard only enters what I type, without hallucinating 50 extra pages. And if AI, a tool that generates content, is like "a specific brand of keyboard", does that mean my brain is also a "specific brand of keyboard"?

I get their point. If you want to create good code by having AI create bad code and then spending twice the time to fix it, feel free to do that. But I'm in favor of a complete ban.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 week ago

The keyboard thing is sort of a parable, it is as difficult to determine if code was generated in part by AI as it is to determine what keyboard was used to create it.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 33 points 1 week ago

The (very obvious) point is that this cannot be enforced. So might as well deal with it upfront.

[–] Shayeta@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

AI is a useful tool for coding as long as it's being used properly. The problem isn't the tool, the problem is the companies who scraped the entire internet, trained LLM models, and then put them behind paywalls with no options to download the weights so that they could be self-hosted. Brazen, unaccountable profiteering off of the goodwill of many open source projects without giving anything back.

If LLMs were community-trained on available, open-source code with weights freely available for anyone to host there wouldn't be nearly as much animosity against the tech itself. The enemy isn't the tool, but the ones who built the tool at the expense of everyone and are hogging all the benefits.

[–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

There are hundreds of such LLMs with published training sets and weights available on places like HuggingFace. Lots of people run their own LLMs locally, it's not hard if you have enough vram and a bit of patience to wait longer for each reply.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Eh, trust me, anti AI people don’t think this much about it

Also, there are a lot of open weight models out there that are pretty good

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 5 points 1 week ago

You’re the one comparing AI and guns/killing people, and then saying their metaphorical comparison isn’t accurate? Lol

[–] ede1998@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

Last I checked a keyboard only enters what I type

I've had (broken) keyboard "hallucinate" extra keystrokes before, because of stuck keys. Or ignore keypresses. But yeah, that means the keyboard is broken.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Wooting and Razer had a macro function that allowed Counterstrike players to setup a function to always get counter strafe. Valve decided that was a bridge too far and banned "Hardware level" exploits.

So, Valve once banned a keyboard.

[–] bassow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
Torvalds and the maintainers are acknowledging reality: developers are going to use AI tools to code faster, and trying to ban them is like trying to ban a specific brand of keyboard.

The author should elaborate on how exactly AI is like “a specific brand of keyboard”. Last I checked a keyboard only enters what I type, without hallucinating 50 extra pages. And if AI, a tool that generates content, is like “a specific brand of keyboard”, does that mean my brain is also a “specific brand of keyboard”?

It's about the heritage of code not being visible from the surface. I don't know about your brain.

[–] alyth@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Out of curiosity how much code have you contributed to the Linux kernel?