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Again genocide isn't a small thing, Harris also was very questionable on trans issues and extremely pro imperialism and cop.
Voting is a practical, political act, not a moral one. Anyone that tells you different is tricking you.
lol, america is so fucked
That's not really an argument.
are we arguing?
No, I'm sorry this is "abuse".
Why are act utilitarians so insufferably smug?
That's you reading into it, I think. I'm just tired.
Labels feel like a substitute for argument and thought.
If people critical of this could organize something more useful than lemmy downvotes, that would be a start. I'm just genuinely confused by anyone that feels like not voting accomplishes anything. By definition, it is inaction. And mathematically, voting third party is the same as not voting. Why not at least defend gay and trans people? You can still do whatever non-voting-related actions you were planning to do to improve things. I guess you're making your trolley problem choice. Honestly, the moral purity that has no impact just reads as vanity to me.
"mathematically, voting third party is the same as not voting. "
that's not true
I'm sorry, this is not a serious position.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_effect
this doesn't say what you said.
If you'd like to make an assertion and support it with facts, I'll respond, but you're wasting our time with simple contradiction.
i've presented exactly as much evidence for my position as you for yours.
No, I gave you a link that you didn't read (you didn't have time to have read it). I'm sorry you can't support your fantasy, goodbye.
Again, and this is painful to repeat so often:
I agree with your point, but you must agree there was absolutely no feasible outcome of this last voting process that had any advertised improvement for gaza from America -- but there was at least hope in the candidate those losers didn't vote for.
Except electorilism isn't a useful never mind the only method for changing society, as well as other options even for voting and anti-genocide should be basic. Never mind Harris isn't "vastly different" she promised the most lethal military, cracked down hard on sex workers, promised to be extremely tough on the border, as AG discriminated against imprisoned trans people, promised to increase police budgets and I could keep going.
So you're saying you don't grasp that it was either Harris or Trump and that there really is no argument for which one is worse?
Because that's what the person you're responding to is saying and you don't appear to grasp it. Despite being a pretty simple concept.
Seems like you can't grasp that they have refuted the other comment's point. They grasped the point just fine and then dismantled it.
Darkfuture, I think you're a media rep employed by the GOP. Possibly a bot.
Always wild how the top level blue no matter who posts get enough upvotes to dominate the feed while just about every positively voted comment is calling out the post. Id wager theres a loot of bots round here.
Some voters vote for the future. Some for accountability for past actions. You don't get to tell people the right way to vote.
In many ways, you're advocating an inferior strategy. Politicians lie all the time, and their campaign promises are mostly wishful thinking. But holding a party accountable for their past actions actually has real data to go off of.
It's always the same with common sense posts like yours on Lemmy. You get more upvotes than downvotes, which is good. But the number of downvotes is alarming and not a great sign for America's future.
This country has a SERIOUS problem with common sense and accepting reality.
Well it's good that we went with the low IQ felon rapist pedophile fraud who threatens to wipe civilizations off the face of the Earth and robs us blind.
Man, we almost ended up with an imperfect highly educated black woman with no criminal indictments instead. Can you imagine?
You understand not voting beat both options right? It wasn't a race between Kamala and Trump because they have isolated entrenched voter bases.
It was that a corpo cop who would keep the genocide on simmer and was anointed cantidate didn't inspire many.
She lost to the couch.
When the fight is between the right and the far right, you don't let the far right win even if it's not inspiring.
Buddy. You have to INSPIRE PEOPLE OR YOU LOSE.
And you use low IQ as an insult I see what kind of person you are.