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China surpassed the United States in global approval ratings in 2025, with a median of 36% approving of China’s leadership, compared with 31% for the U.S. China’s five-percentage-point advantage over the U.S. is the widest Gallup has recorded in China’s favor in nearly 20 years.

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[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

No one is giving the U.S. a pass. This is a deliberate mischaracterization.

Until this regime, the U.S. had some of the best solar subsidies on the planet.

The U.S., as a surveillance state, is still in its infancy when compared to China. So it is laughable that you are using China in any comparison to the U.S., in almost the same breath.

"Carceral State" is a tanky propagandist dog whistle.

Why don't you debate faults on their own? Because you are deliberately trying to use current bad conduct, of the U.S. to whitewash another country's bad conduct.

"Oh hey, the U.S. is super shitty, but we have made so much solar in the past year so we're all about global stability."

Ignore EVERYTHING China has done though, only look at the bad that the U.S. is doing.

I'm sure you have plenty of arguments that support or claim how China has been with: Taiwan

Uygher people

Support of North Korea

Support of Russia against Ukraine

Tibet

The horde of nonsense "technological breakthroughs" that seem to come every month but never amount to anything and just disappear.

The pollution that has been produced by Chinese industry that pretends to adhere to global standards but get busted when college students use basic satellite data.

Suppression of Hong Kong

China's state sponsored industrial espionage.

China's disregard of human rights abroad when kidnapping Chinese dissidents from foreign countries.

(This is just me pulling the random items I can just immediately recall)?

But that is all Western propaganda I'm sure. Feel free to break out your playbook responses.

I didn't use bad language this time for you to get my comment deleted, since suppression is one of your biggest tools.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Funny, ten minutes ago I wrote this: https://lemmy.ca/comment/22610922 literally further down the this very thread.

How can you at the same time say that "carceral state" is a tankie dogwhistle, and also say that nobody is giving the US a pass?

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Easy. They are not mutually exclusive?

How many TP Link routers, were found to be compromised by China and had to be removed from U.S. infrastructure?

Salt Typhoon hack?

Why does China restrict access to the internet without massive censure?

Your link just takes me back to your parent comment.

Your entire argument is the pot calling the kettle black.

If you were just discussing the shitty things the U.S. is doing, I would be in total agreement, but you are trying to shoehorn "How great China is" into the discussion.

No matter how terrible the U.S. is and gets, it will not erase all the terrible things China has and is doing too. No matter how much you argue otherwise.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The link works for me. What can I tell you, I'm literally debating shitty Chinese policies with user "stumu415" on a different sub thread here. Search for the string "IAGS" in the comments under this post. I'm tired trying to convince you I'm not an elephant when you continuously make bad faith assumptions and miscaracterise what I'm saying.

Edit: if you're denying the existence of mass incarceration system in the US (aka the carcéral state) you're denying reality and absolutely giving the US a pass.