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I was raised to address strangers and those I wish to show social deference to as "Sir" or "Ma'am". It's a difficult habit to break, as it is deeply engrained.

What is an equivalent gender neutral honorific that is relatively common in English? If I can't break the habit I'd rather have a substitute word to use instead of an awkward pause in the middle of addressing someone

I'd just use Google to ask but I'd rather ask the people directly rather than an AI generated answer based off of Reddit threads

ETA: I suppose if Yessir and Yes'm work, Yesn't could too? Mostly joking… but maybe… πŸ€”

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[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

I am legit going to use Magister as a replacement option for Mr/Mrs. It's formal, archaic, and gender neutral. That's the trifecta right there

[–] foliumcreations@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I've seen enough posts related to etymology or historical use of words where they, either misrepresent the facts to fit a narrative or just make shit up, that I try to look it up my self. I also find etymology fascinating so that helps.

In this case they are absolutely right.

Both Mr and. Mrs,ms are derived from master and mistress (teachers) and both of those words stem from the Latin word Magister.

Edit: fun fact the English verb stick is the same word as the noun stick and comes from the same origin the Germanic word stik which also meant a piece of wood and to pierce/adhere or sharp. But wait it's older than that the Latin word stigare also means pierce. And share the same ancestry, namely indo-european. Turns out we humans have been talking about sticks for a long time.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

...crap, I'm cis male and I wanna be addressed as "mage"...

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You can just do that ya know. Just be a wizard. Tell people to address you as such. Don't even have to be trans you can change your name and everything

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

I work with magical lights that spring forrh from runes written in gold powered by ancient ichor and magic rocks.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

...why not just "magister" and avoid a word that already has very strong, current connotations with fantasy?

[–] Specter@feddit.org 5 points 23 hours ago

I mean, mages are pretty cool. πŸ§™β€β™‚οΈ

[–] Mesa@programming.dev 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Let's hit "magister" and then work our way down. I swear to god I'd change the shit out of my pronouns to fit mage.

The issue, I guess, is that Mr./Ms. have had centuries to be normalized into common use, whereas "magister" still holds a bit of prestige or honor to it. I'm just spitballin'. I'm definitely going to read more into this when I have some time.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Although it was also my first choice, magister is masculine. Latin is a gendered language (with more than just m/f) and AFAIK magister isn't neutral.

[–] Mesa@programming.dev 4 points 11 hours ago

It doesn't have to carry that genderedness into English.