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This is a pragmatic piece of Fowler on the rather dry topic of Object-relational mappings - in short, the attempt to marry an object-oriented code base with a relational data base.

Usually you'd get enough early success to commit deeply to the framework and only after a while did you realize you were in a quagmire - this is where I sympathize greatly with Ted Neward's famous quote that object-relational mapping is the Vietnam of Computer Science

What Fowler refers to here, is Ted Neward's article "The Vietnam Of Computer Science"

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[–] Maestro@fedia.io 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Same goes for any application that are proud to use "no framework". It just means that you partially implemented your own poorly documented half-assed framework.

[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's a little more nuanced than that.

I will gladly write my own small, half-assed framework that I 100% know, can reason about, can debug, and can extend to fit my requirements. I will gladly pass on a fat-assed, bloated framework with a million dependencies, where I only need a few features, and where if I need something that isn't offered by the framework I have to submit a PR or add some janky-ass workaround.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 2 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

That is fine for your personal projects. It stops being fine as soon as you need to hire extra people and grow the team.

[–] inzen@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)