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I am Turkish and have been wondering about this for a while as a political science and international relations masters degree student. Obama served for 8 years and still many Americans are complaining about how bad their healthcare system is and insurance prices are so high etc etc. Then why doesn't any of them fix it. Here in Turkey, our leading party the AKP fixed the healthcare system so nicely that a lot of people from other countries are coming here for plastic surgeries and other healthcare services and the AKP party, as much as I hate to say it, fixed the healthcare system and now they are serving for their 4th term in a row.

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[–] Kinkisthebest@lemmy.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

But aren't healthier people also paying for insurance currently? I mean you don't get insured once you get sick but before you get sick am I wrong. So, wouldn't healthier people also be happy about paying less for insurance? Don't younger people also have insurance?

[–] the_artic_one@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most people get insurance through their employer and most employers at least partially subsidize the cost. This doesn't show up on your paystub like a tax would so the only way you'd ever be aware of the true cost of your plan is if you got laid off and paid for continuation of benefits (COBRA).

It doesn't occur to most Americans that their paycheck might be higher if they had universal healthcare.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

My paycheck stub now shows the subsidized amount - I can easily see how high the total is if I care to look. Is that not true for everyone now? I thought this also was part of ACA to improve transparency

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

In the US, healthcare costs are double-dipping - you pay a lot when you're healthy, and you also pay extra when you get treatment. But considering how absurdly expensive US healthcare is when you're not sick, even the regular costs would probably be cheaper if the system was properly fixed.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

The US has a ton of different plans with different disadvantages. All, with the exception of maybe some for government and military (but correct me if I'm wrong here), have deductibles that must be met and out-of-pocket expenses ("co-pays") for various things. This means that people pay their insurance premiums on top of out-of-pocket expense for everything. The overall cost of things in the US is much higher than many other countries as well. Which plans are offered also depend a lot on many factors. I've been out of the US for too long to go much into depth on that.