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[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, some people are overzealous, but maybe there's more context too?

Fundamentally, yeah, civilians getting caught in a conflict sucks.

It's just that this one attack is used as justification for the vindictive massacres since, which is both wildly out of proportion and extremely unfair to the civilians not involved in the attack who, even in the most charitable reading, get killed for other people's sins, and in a less charitable one, get killed for other people's genocidal conviction of supremacy.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Context here: https://lemmy.world/comment/22416297

I just read it again, a “Zionist bootlicker” even, for suggesting the attack at the festival was wrong.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder if kids in the concentration camp could hear the festival outside the prison they were born into. I wonder how many could hear or see life outside their prison as their family died from starvation, bombings, or other crimes against humanity. Of course most of them are dead now.

It isn't wrong when someone plays a wrong note when learning how to play the piano. It isn't wrong when a bullied kid punches back. It wasn't wrong when a Jew beat a former camp guard to death when walking out of a liberated Nazi concentration camp. It wasn't wrong when Hamas killed children in the attack on the festival when resisting genocide.

It's a bad thing that the children at that festival died. In a better world Hamas wouldn't have killed them when doing the attack, and in a better world still Hamas wouldn't have cause for the attack. But Hamas was right for trying to resist genocide even when their judgment was poor enough that they killed kids when doing so.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In this case the bullied kid shot up the school and not just the bully.

It also is a completely different situation than someone in a concentration camp beating up their own guard.

If you think the wasn’t wrong you support terrorism and aren’t any better than the terrorists themselves or the Israeli government.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If you think the wasn’t wrong you support terrorism

Yes. That is what we've been talking about. Terrorism was right when the suffragettes did it, it was right when John Brown did it, it was right when the French Resistance did it, and it's right when Hamas does it. Terrorism has a long history of being on the right side of history and of occasionally being the reason for history progressing in the right direction.

and aren’t any better than the terrorists themselves

So terrorism is at most as bad as a random keyboard warrior with bad opinions?

or the Israeli government.

So orchestrating genocide is at most as bad as a random keyboard warrior with bad opinions?

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

You’re just as bad as them since you support it if we follow your line of thinking from the Israeli government to the kids at the festival. And even worse because you don’t even know what opinions they held, I do know yours. You don’t get to choose. Either both are true or neither.