Sorry I didn't realize you'd replied, so what I amended my previous-comment with, helps clarify.. maybe see that..

the dimensions thing..

Experience is valid.

People who've never experienced working-class work, how can they viscerally understand how REAL it is?

How can a beaurocrat?

How can any upperclass one?

Same with knowledge-work.

1 time I had to talk someone through fixing a linux-installation, via the phone ( before cellphones ).

I was lucky to get it fixed before they bonked/hit-the-wall, & COULDN'T do any more strict-concentration.

One has to experience a KIND-of-work, enough .. before one's unconscious-mind can "respect" it, see?

It's only after doing the more-physical stuff for years that I truly-understood/unconsciously-respected how REAL working-class work is, & that's shameful.

Why did my unconscious take years ( part-time ) to get to that change?

I'm autistic: woodenheaded.

& dad's culture was medical-researcher/doctor.

He taught me to think scientifically, when I was small.

I wrongly presumed I was of his culture, & ended-up homeless.

Did me good.

But the dimensions-of-class, though, social-programming/reactions/instinct/imprinting with that class's "validity"-identity, is 1 dimension.

But the visceral-experience-induced-understanding that DOING it until one's unconscious-mind understands & respects just how REAL that-KIND of work is, that is a completely-animal level of understanding.

Same as someone who's operated an engine/machine-lathe: you get a bunch of beaurocrats in a machineshop, & they don't understand.

You get someone who's carved metal on one in there, & they move differently, because they bodily understand that kind of thing, see?

That dimension isn't class-identity, that is one's realm/doing/territory/capability: it is functional identity, not class-"status" identity.

It's one's capability's identity, not one's class-segregation identity.

lol .. Go to an aviation gathering, & you'll see aviation-class-system at work!

Go to a chess-event & you'll see their class-system controlling their relative "validity".

It takes some kind of breaking-the-unconscious-mind's-status-programming to be able to treat other-categories-of-capability as equally-valid, & the only method I know-of which works, is what people call "cross-training", but not in terms of muscle-groups, rather in terms of career-categories.

& as for people downvoting me all the time: that's their right, & I've zero problem with people downvoting everything I write: their free-speech.

Couldn't care less.

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I only put meaning in the world for the people who value it.

Everybody else can diss it all they want.

I'm underclass, & have-been for years.

Some of us change, through experiencing, into people who stand on our own intrinsic, not class, validity.

Self-conquering, to some degree.

I'm working on a level of self-conquering that White-medicine prohibits, but I'm Vajrayana, & wanting to axe-through my soul's/continuum's being-caught-in-this-CATEGORY-OF-incarnation/life.

Totally different frame-of-reference: White medicine holds that Abrahamic-religion framing's valid, & Atheist-religion/assumption-river framing's valid, but that my "universe recycles EVERYthing contained in it: EVEN MEANINGS & souls" paradigm is deemed by them to be delusion that needs obliterating.

No problem: they sow what karma they're going to reap, & I do likewise, but at a totally-different angle.

It's all good, eh?

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PS: oh, I remove the auto-upvote, because sooo many downvote me, that I want to see the actual opinions, not the bandwagon-jumpers who upvote the upvoted.

Often I've forgotten, but went through my 1.4k-ish comments in lemmy.world last-night, removing all the auto-upvotes, to get a more-correct view.

Why should "imaginary internet-points" matter?

Truth's truth: it stands on its own.

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