In my view, it is more the difference between something that is pretty good vs something that is perfect. After all, supposing you are getting paid the same hourly rate, would you rather get paid for 20 hours of work, or 0?

Taking the example of ridesharing, for example - if you are looking for a job, and it is all restricted to traditional cab companies, they might not be able to afford to pay you full time plus benefits to work for them, so you get $0 working as a cabbie. And the result is that there are fewer people driving cabs, and therefore higher prices for cabs, and therefore fewer people taking cabs (and maybe driving drunk). The result of requiring full time pay for all rideshare drivers isn't that all the drivers get full time pay - it is that a lot of them get laid off.

In either the case of having UBI or not having it, presumably you would prefer to be making some income over no income?

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Again, this "minimum wage causes unemployment" fantasy. This is just nonsense meant to justify poverty wages.

It is hard to find a negative effect on employment effect of rises in the minimum wage: the elusive employment effect. It is much easier to find an impact on wage.

https://researchonline.lse.ac.uk/id/eprint/107415/1/manning_edit_revision.pdf