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[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How was it a legal target? We are not at war as idiot orange says.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You are in a defacto war. Despite whatever orange man says. The ship was inside international waters. It belongs to the nation you are attacking. It was a military ship. It is a legal target.

What's not a legal target are the civilian boats they shot down outside of Venezuela.

[–] MaDMaX99@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So usa’s ships are legal targets for all world countries?

[–] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 10 points 1 week ago

Attacking a military ship is generally not a war crime (as defined by international law such as the Geneva treaties, Rome Statute etc...). It is an act of war (same as invasion or bombardment of another country), and is likely to see retaliation by the attacked country.

Aggression (i.e. unprovoked acts of war) is against the Charter of the United Nations, which also includes the International Court of Justice as a dispute resolution mechanism. It is up to the United Nations Security Council (at which the US has a veto) to authorise enforcement of ICJ rulings.

If a nation is acting to protect another nation facing aggression from the US, it would be legal for the attack US military ships. The reason why they wouldn't would more be that it would likely bring counter-retaliation from the US.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

If you want to start a war with the US, sure.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Rules for thee not for me

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Legal by whose standards? The international law’s? No one enforces that. Unless it’s to benefit the richest. Most international law is followed basically on the honor system.

By the US’s standards, everything is legal because the president has no limitations because our government will never pass those limitations on a president. If it was illegal, no one is can or will enforce it.

Who cares about “legal”?

Even the Japanese technically declared war before they attacked pearl harbor. That the US gov was too disorganized to get the message to pearl harbor is not their fault.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Actually the orange idiot keeps saying you are. It was Mike Johnson going the SMO route

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Only Congress can declare war. Until then it's a conflict.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

A war is a war whether the aggressor decides to officially call it that or not

War - Noun -fighting, using soldiers and weapons, between two or more countries, or two or more groups inside a country - Cambridge Dictionary

It's just as much a war as Putin's war in Ukraine is. The fact that Congress hasn't gotten round to declaring it yet is moot

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Oh I know, and you know, but there are legal definitions and issues with what he's doing. Not that any of that matters regardless to the asshats in charge.