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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 36 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

"The Strongest Jedi" definitely isn't right. At best, he's evenly matched with Obi-Wan. If you apply stupid "power scaling" rules, then sure, Obi-Wan got ganked by Dooku during their fight while Anakin handily beat him. But at the same time that Dooku pushes Obi-Wan, he easily kicks and downs Anakin who's behind him; Obi-Wan was just the one he subdued by crushing him, ostensibly seeing him as the greater threat.

We've seen Anakin lose to Obi-Wan at the (inherent) height of his combat prowess, and it was his own fault. Windu and Yoda probably also take Anakin one-on-one. (Windu, of course, was totally defenseless when Anakin severed his arm.)

If we're talking about things like the Force, Yoda is clearly much more powerful. There's an argument Anakin was the most powerful pilot, but that combined with being very Force-sensitive and a very good duelist doesn't make him "the most powerful" overall. Most potential? If he could keep his emotions under control, probably.

[–] Comrade_Spood@quokk.au 1 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

Power can only account for arrogance so much. I interpret it as Anakin was the most powerful Jedi, but his arrogance and lack of self control often times got in the way of it. So to me, Obiwan didn't win because he was stronger, but because he was in control.

[–] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 23 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, there are plenty of Jedi who can beat Anakin, but I think if you normalize for experience, he was easily the strongest of any of his peers. He should have seen being allowed to sit in on the council at his age as an enormous honor. But of course, he's the egotist supreme, and he had unwise words being whispered in his ear.

Also, in the fight with Dooku, it seems likely to me that Palpatine somehow invisibly sabotaged him once Obi-Wan was down. Palps wanted that to end with both Dooku AND Obi-Wan dead.

Tap for spoilerI mean the truth is the movies are just poorly written and wildly inconsistent, but whatever lol

[–] can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io 11 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Movies confirm that Anakin is roughly equal in power to Obi-Wan and Yoda is roughly equal in power to Palpatine. Anakin is the chosen one and the prophecy that he would bring balance to the force was fulfilled at the end of Episode 3 when those were the only four left.

[–] TALL421@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

George has explicitly said in the past that balance does not mean equal light and equal dark. The dark side is a corruption, a cancer of the Force. Of course George isn't in charge anymore but Dave very much learned from George and seemingly already shared many of the same views of the Force to begin with.

Anakin brings balance when Luke redeems him, and he defeats Palpatine. And then yknow.... again is balanced by the Dyad. But it's easier for pretty much everyone not to talk about that.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting take. I mean, there were more of both, but as the power structures is interesting.

[–] can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Not my most controversial take. Mace Windu never had a chance against Palpatine. Palpatine let Windu take an advantageous position in the fight as his final ploy to turn Anakin. I offer three points as evidence for this.

First, Windu went to Palpatine's office with three other Jedi masters, all of whom were members of the council, to arrest Palpatine. Despite having four of the most powerful Jedi, knowing that Palpatine was a dangerous Sith Lord, and having every opportunity to choose the place, time, and manner of the confrontation two of the four Jedi were dead before Windu even got his lightsaber activated and a third died almost immediately after.

Second, Windu got the upper hand just as Anakin arrived in the office. Palpatine appears to be a weakened pitiful old man as Windu turns his force lightening back on him and then decides to execute him instead of arresting him but as soon as Anakin attacks Windu formalizing his turn to the dark side Palpatine is on his feet and both his force lightening and his trademark cackle are at full force.

Third, despite his supposed grievous injuries, a day after the duel with Windu Palpatine fought Yoda to a stalemate.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How did palpatine keep his skills sharp throughout all those years without attracting any notice?

[–] can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Darth Plagueis was alive up until Palpatine was named Chancellor. Darth Maul was a match for Jedi Masters. Darth Tyranus was a very accomplished duelist even before becoming a sith. So I would say it was through training/sparring with his master and apprentices as well as the use things like training droids.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 27 minutes ago

Darth Plagueis was alive up until Palpatine was named Chancellor

How could that be true? He already had an apprentice before he became chancellor, and there can only be two sith at a time

[–] tino_408@lemmy.world -3 points 23 hours ago

Yall take stuff online way to seriously lol