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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Care to elaborate? Why is wanting to democratize production more authoritarian than wanting many competing dictators?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because capitalism is what allows to democratize production.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Definitionally, it cannot. Capitalism is individual ownership, Socialism is collective ownership. By definition, workers in Capitalism have no real say.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism is individual ownership, That's the key! It gives you all the rights and freedoms to create your own business and lead it the way YOU see fit. By definition, Capitalism doesn't have workers or other classes, everyone is equal. Socialism is an authoritarian ideology, which puts the needs of a social construct (a virtual entity, if you prefer) over the needs, rights and freedoms of an individual. One must be very delusional to support authoritarian socialist ideas in any way, shape or form.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Individual rights to become a Capital Owner and exploit the majority of society is by definition class society. In Socialism, there are no classes, because ownership is shared. There are no Capitalists exploiting workers.

You don't know enough about Socialism or Capitalism to discuss either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No, you don't know enough if you think that equal freedoms and rights lead to "exploitation" and "classes" while inherently authoritarian ideology means there are no classes. Like, lol, what kind of lunacy is that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Workers do not have equal rights with Owners.

How is democratic ownership of Capital "inherently authoritarian?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Once again, there are no workers. Learn some basics first.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who do Capitalists employ? Fairies?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

...what? Do you know what a "job" is?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Mate, are you really 13 years old or something?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You outright stated that nobody is employed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, I've never said that. You're actually 13, omg...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You did, lol. Can't be employed if there'a nobody employing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Mate, once again, there are NO workers. Let that sink in. Then we can continue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do you call someone who works a job? A jobber?

You have a fundamentally entirely different definition of terms from the rest of Humanity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

can't be bothered to argue with tankies that had an anvil dropped on their head as a baby.