utopiarte

@codewizard

I don't understand the Christian part though !!

Looks like you are mixing up important details that belong to different aspects called religion, culture, believes and even representatives of those aspects commonly refered to as idols.

Like to say:
There is a message, a messenger, a language that enshrines the message, as well as habits that represent them.

@jesuisatire

@codewizard
Sounds a little bit like an exaggeration and misinterpretation incentivized by the given description of commoners and nobility. Actually, looking at it again, french cards, and that is what we are talking here, represent different factions and high value cards, aces and tens, most likely represent goods. Jacks, Queens and Kings represent the nobility of the factions that manage the wealth and goods. Apparently "trionfi" was an addition to that general setup italians came up with around the 16th century.

Than there is the fact that their are lots of card games, in any case they reflect and shape the different cultural particularities and that games often are a way to reflect and handle reality, being it kids impersonating the world that surrounds them or people playing chess.

The intent here is to adapt the idea of a german cards game, Doppelkopf to conversations and discussions by for example stating something like "I have a good argument that trumps yours" or "I agree with your exposition, am on your team and there for place a card that counts a lot so you can take that value home for (our) team".

What explains that assholes actions in the real world?
Well, its in plain sight for everyone and actually addressed quite outspoken. Doesn't look like it's useful to waste time with the brain dead news cycles around him but to realize what the changed environment means for all of us on all levels.
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@mina
RE: social.tchncs.de/users/jesuisa…

@codewizard
Trump comes from Trumpf the german word for trionfi which (apparently (wikipedia)) is the original italian word for cards that overrule cards of plain suits.

Plains are like the commoners and trionfi cards are the nobility who do not have to obey by the normal rules, or lets say, trump the normal plain suit cards, they are stronger.

Commonly you have to play the kind of cards the initial card in a turn commands. If that is for example a plain of clubs, every one has to play a club. I someone does not have a card of the kind of the initial card of the turn, than they are free to throw what ever card they want to. If they play a trionfi card, a Trumpf, they win the turn over, unless another player that also does not have the requested plain plays a higher trionfi card and wins.

Auftrumpfen in german means kinda doing a show off, to expose your capabilities.

Where do you see people playing card games sitting in circles on the ground?
(The gambling (for money) is actually a secondary thing, to improve the tension and not necessary at all)

@mina

@codewizard

Why did you skip the mention of @mina, as a by stander (an independent third party) that could be helpful\useful to explain\mediate perhaps?

@codewizard

Off what, Bonobo's?

@bitpickup

Looks to me that your Queen of Spades and @utopiarte's King of Diamonds are perhaps at risk.

At risk?
Actually that depends on the nature of the game and the reasoning behind playing that King of Diamonds.

We might ask @mina how all this looks right now from a bystanders point of view.
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@jesuisatire @codewizard

A learning question, that's good!

youtube.com/watch?v=MClg7zpm6V…

thx @jesuisatirebitpickup, this now came over, no idea why the inicial post by search didn't show up, some Lemmy/friendica issue, or maybe the it's because squeet.me is on the dev branch.
(upss, nope 2024.12 database version 1576/1576)

Also, your mention wasn't notified, this just appeared in the stream. Let's do a general reshare so this is ported over to diaspora too.
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@requeteche @Cris_Color