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[–] self@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

assume I know and understand that the LLM did not literally do the banning

maybe there’s a large body of existing research on how even human in the loop systems confirm and worsen biases? maybe it’s a bit obvious when you go through the process the moderator took to get to their decisions in your head? slowly now, maybe you’ll get there

[–] self@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago (9 children)

think very carefully on this because I’m not sure pretending to not understand what I’m asking is working out for you

[–] self@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (10 children)

no but you’re about to be talking to a defed unless you stop this all caps fake outrage shit. should I do you the favor of deleting the garbage post you just made so you can give it another go?

[–] self@awful.systems 18 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Finally, just because I included an LLM summary of the comment history in the public modlog, it does not logically follow that the ban occurred because of the LLM summary. It simply happened to correspond very well to my own manual review

yeah, it’s ok because the LLM wasn’t hooked up directly to the ban API, you just used it systemically to not do the only fucking thing you’re supposed to be doing as a moderator

this human in loop shit is how corporations absolve themselves of responsibility for decisions taken purely on the word of an LLM. it lets them fire a worker instead of an executive. you’re sure this is the route you want to go?

[–] self@awful.systems 17 points 1 week ago (22 children)

you thought I’d be ok with this shit because it was done with an allegedly open source model? I’m so glad you ignored all our posts about unchecked algorithmic bias and the fucking rotten origins of every open source model (hint: you don’t have the resources to train a model because you aren’t a billion-dollar company and that’s by design) because moderating your instances appropriately was ooh just too haard

my guy what in the fuck are we doing here? more to the point what are you doing here?

[–] self@awful.systems 18 points 1 week ago

no it’s fine you see, they fed the posts in question to a homegrown open source LLM (still trained on plagiarized sources by a gigantic corporation as part of an extremely obvious market domination plan) and only pretended to feed a ton of posts to chatgpt as a joke that nobody laughed at

moderator’s note to anyone who came here to make the above point in earnest: lol

[–] self@awful.systems 13 points 2 weeks ago

it’s so fucking funny to me that “do not lie do not hallucinate” is still one of the prompt incantations the boosters use because they get really embarrassed when you make fun of them for it

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

thank you! I hear a rumor that my fiber might be repaired tomorrow but I’m not sure if I should trust it

(also for posterity: all evidence points to my fiber being damaged by an animal or a human with the mechanical dexterity of an animal, I’m fairly sure it’s not particularly targeted sabotage)

[–] self@awful.systems 16 points 2 months ago

if for whatever reason you need example text of the mid phases of someone being driven out of their fucking mind by a chatbot, the above will do nicely

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

adding to the confusion, the shithead who replied with “thanks, blocked” is, I’m fairly certain, already banned from our instance

anyway yeah the lemmy/mastodon interop has many sharp edges

[–] self@awful.systems 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

oxy is a mastodon user who follows David so they’re most likely telling the AI startups in question to GTFO and lemmy has kindly reinterpreted that as a tag

however,

Why are people hating on / blocking dgerard?

let’s go down the list! depending on the subculture, you’re blocking dgerard because:

  • you’re a Scientologist and interacting with dgerard will cost you your Operating Thetan rank
  • you’re a Rationalist and have read the Lightcone Infrastructure memo about how dgerard is the devil, beating out all other contenders for most evil being on the earth
  • you’re a cryptocurrency gambler and you think dgerard’s critiques lost you money
  • you run an AI startup and you think dgerard’s critiques lost you money
  • you’re on the far right and dgerard won’t let you edit misinformation straight into Wikipedia

there are more, we can go deeper

[–] self@awful.systems 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

here’s the summary table that the article pulled its numbers from

here’s a specific question regarding AI

 

the software we use to run awful.systems, which @dgerard@awful.systems suggested I call Philthy (and I agreed!), is seeking contributors.

like upstream Lemmy, this consists of a Rust backend and a Typescript+React frontend. contributions to both are welcome; use this thread to discuss ideas and collaborate.

here's some contribution ideas off the top of my head (but all reasonable contributions are welcome):

  • (frontend & backend) actually rebrand to Philthy, to prevent confusion between us and upstream Lemmy
  • (frontend & backend) rewrite README.md to emphasize that this is a fork
  • (frontend) make the page header and footer more configurable; remove various links that aren't relevant to awful.systems
  • (backend) delete posts from Mastodon when they're deleted on our end
  • (frontend & backend) implement The Firehose, a big admin-only list of the posts and content leaving our instance
  • (frontend & backend, ongoing) merge in changes from upstream Lemmy if there are features you wish our instance had

or make suggestions in this thread!

one major blocker preventing folks from contributing to Lemmy-related development I've seen is that a lot of people don't know Rust. if that's the case, I can offer the following:

  • the Lemmy codebase is the worst possible place to learn Rust, but I'd love to start a thread for Rust tutorials and shared learning. it's honestly an excellent language in its own right, so I'd love to teach folks about it even if they don't end up contributing to Philthy.
  • if you're good with React and/or Typescript and the feature you want to implement has a backend component, I don't mind handling the backend portion if I'm able.
 

this is a non-toxic place to collaborate on projects (programming, design, art, or otherwise) and share information; effectively, it's the awful.systems answer to Hacker News. this community has been in the planning phase for a long time, but the xz backdoor recently emphasized how severe the toxicity problem in existing open source communities is, and how important it is that we have a place to collaborate that isn't controlled by toxic personalities or corporate interests.

FreeAssembly is starting its existence as a Lemmy community that enables collaboration on externally-hosted projects, but that doesn't necessarily need to be its final form. as we figure out the needs of this community, we can grow to service needs like code hosting and design collaboration. for now, we recommend hosting code on software forges like Codeberg (and we recommend avoiding github if possible, though it's well-understood that this isn't easy for established projects). we also want to explore the best options for designers and artists to collaborate without making them dependent on large corporate infrastructure.

there are some expectations around posting to FreeAssembly. see the sidebar for details.

 

(via https://hachyderm.io/@jbcrawford/112202942593125987, archive: https://archive.is/VnqRZ)

surprise, Amazon’s godawful surveillance grocery stores were just exploiting hidden labor and calling it innovation, and even that was too expensive

even worse, the few times I’ve seen one of these fucking things in the wild, it still had 1-2 employees hovering near the entrance to make sure nobody did the utterly obvious (fuck with the payment system and get free shit), a job that’s also known as a fucking cashier, but with much worse pay, much harder labor (physically stopping shoplifters), and no counter to lean on or opportunity to even sit down

 

we’re seeing a bit of spam come in from lemmy.world. if you happen to see any (and a lot of it seems to be in DMs), make sure to flag it. that’ll let both us and the originating instance’s mods know. if we get a bunch of reports and it seems like lemmy.world isn’t cleaning things up properly, we’ll take further steps to limit the amount of spam we get

 

Amaranth is a simple-but-expressive hardware description language (the type of language you use to define integrated circuits for FPGAs, ASICs, and similar hardware) implemented as a Python DSL. I'm not the biggest Python fan, but Amaranth is worth it -- even though it's in heavy development and its documentation is incomplete, it's by far the most comprehensible HDL I've ever used, and I've tried many of them.

its documentation is incomplete since the language is under heavy development, but its language guide is still the best gentle introduction to HDL concepts I've read, and its tutorials are written for an older version of the language (sometimes called nMigen) but are still excellent -- in particular, Robert Baruch's tutorials combine design fundamentals with formal verification (which itself is usually considered an advanced technique, but Amaranth streamlines it), and the Vivonomicon RISC-V tutorials are worth a read too

 

You could get a robot limb for your blown-off limb

Later on the same technology could automate your gig, as awesome as it is

Wait, it gets awful: you could split a atom willy-nilly

If it's energy that can be used for killing, then it will be

It's not about a better knife, it's chemistry and genocide

And medicine for tempering the heck in a projector light

Landmines, Agent Orange, leaded gas, cigarettes

Cameras in your favorite corners, plastic in the wilderness

We can not be trusted with the stuff that we come up with

The machinery could eat us, we just really love our buttons, um

Technology, focus on the other shit

3D-printed body parts, dehydrated onion dip

You can buy a Jet Ski from a cell phone on a jumbo jet

T-E-C-H-N-O-L-O-G-Y, it's the ultimate

the subject matter of Aesop Rock's latest album felt relevant to our instance's interests

 

this one should hopefully fix the remaining token issues folks have been having, though I'm not seeing anything in the commit log about fixes for the other session and pagination issues we've noticed. as always, let me know if anything looks broken. I'm still working on getting Photon deployed, which might be a good workaround for the frontend breakages we've been seeing.

 

today's (later than planned) upgrade to lemmy 0.19.2 provisionally appears to have gone alright. if you see excessive amounts of jank (and your page footer can't decide what version of lemmy it's running on, IE it shows separate FE and BE versions), clear your browser cache and cookies since lemmy doesn't seem to do that cleanly on its own

next up I'm planning to deploy the Proton frontend as an alternative to the default and I'm also going to start pushing code to codeberg (most likely) so stay tuned for that

 

I’m taking awful.systems down for a bit tomorrow (January 13) around 11 PM GMT because after 16 release candidates and 2 hotfixes, lemmy 0.19.x finally seems like a safe enough upgrade. this is going to be a major one, so I’ll be taking our instance down temporarily to get a database backup before I apply the upgrade. expect exceptional levels of jank!

 

now that threads is starting to federate, they sure as fuck aren’t with us

threads.net commemorative cocktail:

  • glass: old fashioned (lowball)
  • pour hard cider from red apples until glass is 3/4ths full
  • top with 1 shot of bourbon
  • smoke glass with cherry wood
  • garnish with sliced lime, or add lime juice to taste
  • drink and meditate on what AOL and then Google did to usenet
 

this is pretty cool. it’s a tutorial with interactive exercises that explores the Nix language as a general-purpose functional programming language, outside of its role as the configuration and package definition language for NixOS. understanding Nix better as a language makes more complicated packages easier to write (and is necessary to understand the guts of nixpkgs and the parts of Nix written in itself), but it also has a number of unique advantages as a programming language within a very specific domain.

 

from the linked github thread:

Your project is in violation of the AGPL, and you have stated this is intentional and you have no plans to open source it. This is breaking the law, and as such I've began to help you with the first steps of re-open sourcing the plugin.

the project author (who gets paid for violating the AGPL via patreon) responds like a mediocre crypto grifter and insists their violation of the law be debated on the discord they control (where their shitty community can shout down the reporter):

While keeping code private doesn't guarantee security, it does make it harder for bad actors to keep up with changes. You are welcome to debate this matter in the MakePlace discord: https://discord.com/invite/YuvcPzCuhq If you are able to convince the MakePlace community that keeping the code open-source is better, I will respect the wishes of the community.

aaaand the smackdown:

Respectfully, I won't attempt to "debate" or "convince" anyone; I'm leaving this pull request and my fork here for others to see and use. It is not a matter of "better"; you are violating a software license and the law. It does not "make it harder" for anyone; Harmony hooking exists, IL modification exists, you can modify plugins from other plugins.

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